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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks Scott.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Hollenbeck, Scott
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 20, 2017 7:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>; 'icann@ferdeline.com' <icann@ferdeline.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] My notes from the discussion with the Data Protection Commissioners on 13 March 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>; <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] My notes from the discussion with the Data Protection Commissioners on 13 March 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you very much for doing this Ayden. I found it very helpful and share a few personal comments here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“</span><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">Data controllers should not fragment their policies depending on the territory. (GB, JC)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">While I do not question that this point was made, I suspect that when we get into the policy and implementation phases we will likely encounter some issues where
different jurisdictions have conflicting requirements and we may have to localize some requirements by jurisdiction. If I remember correctly, I think the EWG addressed this and that RDAP makes this possible to do from a technical point of view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“</span><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">“The major treaty on data protection is Convention 108. And Convention 108 is open<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">for signature to countries across the world. Uruguay has signed it. Tunisia has signed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">it. And another ten countries are now observers. And it is that convention [not the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">European Union’s GDPR] which has actually provided the standard with which more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">than another 100 countries around the world have followed.” (JC)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I could be mistaken but I thought that there were over 50 countries that signed on to Convention 108. Am I mistaken on that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[SAH] I found the list of signatories here, Chuck:
<a href="https://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/treaty/108/signatures?p_auth=fz15vACH">
https://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/treaty/108/signatures?p_auth=fz15vACH</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If I’m counting correctly there are 47 countries identified as states that have signed and ratified the convention. Three others are
identified as “Non-Members of Council of Europe” who have ratified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“</span><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">“Is there any other less intrusive method compared to mandatory publication that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">would serve the purpose of the WHOIS directories without all data being directly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">available online to everybody?” (GB)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Isn’t this essentially a conclusion that the EWG arrived at? I would appreciate it if EWG members would comment on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[SAH] This EWG member’s recollection is that we recommended implementation of gated access to serve the purpose “without all data
being directly available online to everybody”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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