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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hi Nathalie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You can find information on ICANN’s Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law here:
<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/whois-privacy-conflicts-procedure-2008-01-17-en">
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/whois-privacy-conflicts-procedure-2008-01-17-en</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You will also find a section on the “Additional Key Inputs” page on this PDP WG’s wiki page (<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Additional+Key+Inputs)">https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Additional+Key+Inputs)</a>
linking to several pages and documents along the lifecycle of this procedure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Also of possible interest is the GNSO Council resolution from last month that confirmed the Council’s non-objection to the final report of an Implementation Advisory Group (IAG) that reviewed
the implementation details of the WHOIS conflict with privacy policy: <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201702">
https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201702</a>. We will make sure that the IAG’s final report is added to the relevant section on the “Additional Key Inputs” page of the WG wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>nathalie coupet <nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 5:08 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Lisa Phifer via Gnso-rds-pdp-purpose <gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] a suggestion for "purpose in detail"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Could you refer me to the documents providing for the Exception to the application of a law due to conflict, that was referred to at some point (by teh WG on transition
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">On Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:00 AM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> wrote:</span><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Mar 23, 2017, at 09:44, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Whois is the rope with which bad actors hang themselves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Maybe dumb bad actors. Savvy bad actors just populate whois with data of unknowing third parties, thereby rendering any verification and validation instruments
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I think maybe its best you let the people who do this work speak for the value of the information. We're using it in criminal investigations and prosecutions. You're just simply taking their money.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Believe it or not, bad actors cost us money. We'd love to be able to "not to take their money" as it is a poisoned pill.<br>
And we see the whois data used by criminals all the time, when we look at the reports we are sent. Usually it is fake data ripped from some online database or the phone book.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">So its a baseless allegation that investigators might have expertise in how they use this data? Only domain registrars who have a financial relationship with the
criminals know how to use this data?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">I referred to your last sentence which directly implied that registrars in general and the registrar I am employed with in particular profit
from criminals using their service. This is a baseless allegation that could not be farther from the truth, as I have previously explained.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">That's a rather dramatic misreading. We investigate crimes so I would appreciate due deference to what data is valuable or not. Your role here is providing a service.
You don't work with law enforcement to investigate crimes, do you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">I have used the law to craft a possible solution but no DP authority has taken your position.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Ultimately, that may be the road we have to take if no better solution to provide registrar services legally presents itself, but as I pointed
out, that will ultimately serve no one. Registrars will have to raise their fees to incorporate the service, crime fighters and LEAs will have a much more difficult time getting ANY data across borders. Your "solution" would just make your own work a lot harder.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">I think perhaps deference to my opinion as to what would make MY work harder might be warranted. If you agree, I offer the same deference to you in matters in
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">You are simply taking the position that if your profits aren't maximized and your costs aren't minimized it is illegal. This position is untenable.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Again, I resent you putting words into my mouth. Please do not make statements on my behalf or try to turn your assumptions into a claim of what I am saying. I
am saying that anything we come up with will have to be in full compliance with legal requirements. And if there is a cost attached to that solution, that cost will be passed on somewhere, one way or another, not because I want it to but because I know that
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">To which I agree. Let's craft a legal solution the represents the best of what we can offer for all ours (you, me, and everyone else's) interests. I think we can
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">> You have a contract with ICANN, that contract establishes requirements. Those requirements make it legal.<br>
If you believe that, you probably still believe in Trump and other things as well. The above statement is so supendiously wrong, it boggles the mind. You are basically saying that a contract to break the law somehow makes it ok to do so? So if we signed a contract
tomorrow to rob the local bank, that absolves us from any guilt? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">No one care about your inane political opinions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">So I was right?<br>
Also good attempt at dodging the argument, but the point I made still stands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">No, I just don't think constantly injecting your political opinions is helpful. I won't inject comments about Merkel because they are irrelevant. Let's get out
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For clarity: The contract with ICANN can say that pigs may fly, but that does not change the laws of physics. If anything in the contract or ICANN policies violates applicable law, that part of the contract is null and void, does not apply, can be ignored,
has no relevance, etc, etc. BTW: it even says so in the RAA. Maybe you can find the relevant passage yourself...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. Since you have neither, you pound the table.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Just because you appear not to like the facts or the laws, they do not become less applicable.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">No one has all the facts here and no one is a master of the laws of every nation on this subject. Let's build bridges to build common understanding. Can I count
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">If ICANN sets illegal rules, we get to ignore them. So why set illegal rules in the first place? To trap the unwitting and careless registrars?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Your voice can demand anything it likes, but if it is not in compliance with the law, it will be ignored. And rightly so.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Nope! Contracts do not allow a contracted party to break the law. There is a reason assassination contracts are illegal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Appears so. If one side continues to demand the illegal and the impossible for their own benefit, we will get nowhere. So why not educate yourself on the requirements
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Volker<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Excellent suggestion. Perhaps a future action item could be a survey of who various classes of stakeholders use RDS/whois. <br>
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On Mar 21, 2017, at 21:07, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">I have a hard time understanding what very stakeholder wants. If every group of stakeholder could write down how they see the new RDS functioning, just by doing
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 03:01:50PM -0500, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br>
> Except that is not the only approach to the problem nor the ones exclusively used by DP authorities (i.e. Twitter). That is why I asked the question I did and why I will be lobbying them directly for whois privacy for free.
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But I thought the point of what we were doing was to make some<br>
proposals for what to mask and how -- basically, that's what<br>
differential access does. And I also thought we were at the beginning<br>
of that effort (much as it frustrates me the rate at which we move).<br>
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> The question of whether fields are optional or can be "masked" is inherently part of this discussion.
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That's just conflating two different things. The first thing is to<br>
ask whether something should be collected _at all_. Then one can ask,<br>
if something is collected, who may obtain it and under what<br>
circumstances. This latter is the "masking" of which you speak. And<br>
it's all implemented as it currently is because whois is brain-dead.<br>
So let us not be restricted to the functionality we can get from a<br>
primitive protocol that had already been extended well beyond its<br>
design constraints more than 20 years ago.<br>
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> To enable third-parties to communicate directly to resolve and troubleshoot problems.
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I suggest that's already there.<br>
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> To enable third-parties to report abuse or security incidents so they may be resolved.
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This too.<br>
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> To enable users and entities to have information to adjudicate an entity is who they say they are (for instance phishing, scams, fake news).
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I find it impossible to imagine using the whois for this purpose, so<br>
I'd like a use description for this. Since it's not authenticated or<br>
authenticatable information anyway, as there are no signatures and so<br>
on, it seems a pretty poor way to do it. This is partly included in<br>
the purposes however when we discuss X.509 certificates.<br>
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> ICANN isn't just a business to confer domain names. Its a quasi-regulatory body over a "commons" and a natural monopoly. The purposes must be viewed beyond the prism of the mere registrar-consumer relationship as many interests are relevant and just as important.
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While I strongly agree that the purposes need to be rather wider than<br>
the domain name industry, I'm uncomfortable with both of the claims of<br>
quasi-regulatory authority, the notion of the Internet as a commons.<br>
The root zone is indeed a natural monopoly, though.<br>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">- Rechtsabteilung -<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/" target="_blank">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/" target="_blank">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" target="_blank">www.keydrive.lu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">- legal department -<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/" target="_blank">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/" target="_blank">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" target="_blank">www.keydrive.lu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">- Rechtsabteilung -<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/" target="_blank">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/" target="_blank">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" target="_blank">www.keydrive.lu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">- legal department -<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">66386 St. Ingbert<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/" target="_blank">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/" target="_blank">www.BrandShelter.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" target="_blank">www.keydrive.lu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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