<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164408">Hi Lisa,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_165159">Could you refer me to the documents providing for the Exception to the application of a law due to conflict, that was referred to at some point (by teh WG on transition from thin to thick Whois)?</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span>Thank you,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_165531"> </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164409"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490276695442_164084">Nathalie </div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:00 AM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3249886912"><div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br clear="none">On Mar 23, 2017, at 09:44, Volker Greimann <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>Whois is the rope with which bad actors hang
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Maybe dumb bad actors. Savvy bad actors just populate
whois with data of unknowing third parties, thereby
rendering any verification and validation instruments
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I think maybe its best you let the people who do this work
speak for the value of the information. We're using it in
criminal investigations and prosecutions. You're just
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Believe it or not, bad actors cost us money. We'd love to be
able to "not to take their money" as it is a poisoned pill.<br clear="none">
And we see the whois data used by criminals all the time, when
we look at the reports we are sent. Usually it is fake data
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<div>So its a baseless allegation that investigators might have
expertise in how they use this data? Only domain registrars who
have a financial relationship with the criminals know how to use
this data?</div>
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I referred to your last sentence which directly implied that
registrars in general and the registrar I am employed with in
particular profit from criminals using their service. This is a
baseless allegation that could not be farther from the truth, as I
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<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>That's a rather dramatic misreading. We investigate crimes so I would appreciate due deference to what data is valuable or not. Your role here is providing a service. You don't work with law enforcement to investigate crimes, do you?</div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<blockquote type="cite">I have used the law to craft a possible solution but
no DP authority has taken your position. <br clear="none">
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Ultimately, that may be the road we have to take if no better
solution to provide registrar services legally presents itself, but
as I pointed out, that will ultimately serve no one. Registrars will
have to raise their fees to incorporate the service, crime fighters
and LEAs will have a much more difficult time getting ANY data
across borders. Your "solution" would just make your own work a lot
harder.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think perhaps deference to my opinion as to what would make MY work harder might be warranted. If you agree, I offer the same deference to you in matters in which your expertise is germane. Deal?</div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>You are simply taking the position that if your profits
aren't maximized and your costs aren't minimized it is illegal.
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Again, I resent you putting words into my mouth. Please do not make
statements on my behalf or try to turn your assumptions into a claim
of what I am saying. I am saying that anything we come up with will
have to be in full compliance with legal requirements. And if there
is a cost attached to that solution, that cost will be passed on
somewhere, one way or another, not because I want it to but because
I know that is the way it works.<br clear="none"></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div>To which I agree. Let's craft a legal solution the represents the best of what we can offer for all ours (you, me, and everyone else's) interests. I think we can do balance. Will you join me in trying?<br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>> You have a contract with ICANN, that contract
establishes requirements. Those requirements make it legal.<br clear="none">
If you believe that, you probably still believe in Trump and
other things as well. The above statement is so supendiously
wrong, it boggles the mind. You are basically saying that a
contract to break the law somehow makes it ok to do so? So if
we signed a contract tomorrow to rob the local bank, that
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No one care about your inane political opinions. <br clear="none">
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So I was right?<br clear="none">
Also good attempt at dodging the argument, but the point I made
still stands.<br clear="none"></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div>No, I just don't think constantly injecting your political opinions is helpful. I won't inject comments about Merkel because they are irrelevant. Let's get out of our trenches and have more constructive dialogue. Will you join me?<br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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For clarity: The contract with ICANN can say that pigs may
fly, but that does not change the laws of physics. If
anything in the contract or ICANN policies violates
applicable law, that part of the contract is null and void,
does not apply, can be ignored, has no relevance, etc, etc.
BTW: it even says so in the RAA. Maybe you can find the
relevant passage yourself...<br clear="none">
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If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have the
facts on your side, pound the facts. Since you have neither, you
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Just because you appear not to like the facts or the laws, they do
not become less applicable. <br clear="none"></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div>No one has all the facts here and no one is a master of the laws of every nation on this subject. Let's build bridges to build common understanding. Can I count on you?<div class="yiv3249886912yqt0982644851" id="yiv3249886912yqtfd70373"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<blockquote type="cite"> But we can find criminals faster with it! -
No legal relevance.<br clear="none">
But we want to contact infringers! - No legal relevance.<br clear="none">
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ICANN sets the rules, you get to follow them. </blockquote>
If ICANN sets illegal rules, we get to ignore them. So why
set illegal rules in the first place? To trap the unwitting
and careless registrars?
<blockquote type="cite">You get a voice, we get a voice. </blockquote>
Your voice can demand anything it likes, but if it is not in
compliance with the law, it will be ignored. And rightly so.
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Nope! Contracts do not allow a contracted party to break the
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<div>No one is suggesting you break the law. Calm down. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Chuck, this is why we're in trench warfare.
And it isn't going to change.<br clear="none">
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Appears so. If one side continues to demand the illegal and
the impossible for their own benefit, we will get nowhere.
So why not educate yourself on the requirements of current
and upcoming privacy regulations and afterwards, we can talk
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<div>No one is demanding anything illegal. </div>
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<div>So fully standardizing this will probably force
some registrars to collect and share far more data
than they currently do, and it's unlikely to
reduce the data collected by the ones who collect
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Nope, the opposite is true.<br clear="none">
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10:17 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span>
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<div>Excellent suggestion. Perhaps a future
action item could be a survey of who various
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On Mar 21, 2017, at 21:07, nathalie
coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3249886912m_6118818800519014376yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490101127081_525220">I have a hard time
understanding what very
stakeholder wants. If every group
of stakeholder could write down
how they see the new RDS
functioning, just by doing a Venn
diagram, we could better
understand what we have in common
and what we need to foncus on to
reduce differences of opinion.</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv3249886912m_6118818800519014376yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1490101127081_525220">But that would require
more work from already busy
people. I think though, it could
give us a more tangible view of
what we are up against. </div>
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Tuesday, March 21, 2017
9:45 PM, Andrew Sullivan
<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>>
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> Except that is not the
only approach to the problem
nor the ones exclusively
used by DP authorities (i.e.
Twitter). That is why I
asked the question I did and
why I will be lobbying them
directly for whois privacy
for free. <br clear="none">
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But I thought the point of
what we were doing was to
make some<br clear="none">
proposals for what to mask
and how -- basically, that's
what<br clear="none">
differential access does.
And I also thought we were
at the beginning<br clear="none">
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frustrates me the rate at
which we move).<br clear="none">
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> The question of whether
fields are optional or can
be "masked" is inherently
part of this discussion. <br clear="none">
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That's just conflating two
different things. The first
thing is to<br clear="none">
ask whether something should
be collected _at all_. Then
one can ask,<br clear="none">
if something is collected,
who may obtain it and under
what<br clear="none">
circumstances. This latter
is the "masking" of which
you speak. And<br clear="none">
it's all implemented as it
currently is because whois
is brain-dead.<br clear="none">
So let us not be restricted
to the functionality we can
get from a<br clear="none">
primitive protocol that had
already been extended well
beyond its<br clear="none">
design constraints more than
20 years ago.<br clear="none">
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> To enable third-parties
to communicate directly to
resolve and troubleshoot
problems. <br clear="none">
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I suggest that's already
there.<br clear="none">
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> To enable third-parties
to report abuse or security
incidents so they may be
resolved. <br clear="none">
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This too.<br clear="none">
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> To enable users and
entities to have information
to adjudicate an entity is
who they say they are (for
instance phishing, scams,
fake news). <br clear="none">
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I find it impossible to
imagine using the whois for
this purpose, so<br clear="none">
I'd like a use description
for this. Since it's not
authenticated or<br clear="none">
authenticatable information
anyway, as there are no
signatures and so<br clear="none">
on, it seems a pretty poor
way to do it. This is
partly included in<br clear="none">
the purposes however when we
discuss X.509 certificates.<br clear="none">
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> ICANN isn't just a
business to confer domain
names. Its a
quasi-regulatory body over a
"commons" and a natural
monopoly. The purposes must
be viewed beyond the prism
of the mere
registrar-consumer
relationship as many
interests are relevant and
just as important. <br clear="none">
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While I strongly agree that
the purposes need to be
rather wider than<br clear="none">
the domain name industry,
I'm uncomfortable with both
of the claims of<br clear="none">
quasi-regulatory authority,
the notion of the Internet
as a commons.<br clear="none">
The root zone is indeed a
natural monopoly, though.<br clear="none">
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Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
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Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3249886912moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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