<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Check,</div><div><br></div><div>First thank you.</div><div><br></div><div>Second, to suggest:</div><div><br></div><div>1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Could we have a scribe that monitors the list and categorizes the emails into larger budgets with the idea that ideas getting sufficient traction are to be added as an agenda item for discussion during a call – and purposely not left for attempted resolution via email. Selection of items for the agenda could be via some sort of straw poll or simply selected by the scribe and added with things being removed by consensus during the call. We could spend 10 mins during each call managing what is or is not added.</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise there is no way I can keep up. By rough count there were over 700 emails from this WG alone this week. I simply cannot believe such a level will result in any meaningful decisions.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, April 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>, "<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement association resolution regarding domain registration data<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I am making a unilateral decision as chair (without consultation with the Leadership Team) to temporarily halt the list discussion. This has nothing to do with the messages below or anything
anyone has said over the last couple of days so no one should take it personal. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">PLEASE STOP POSTING MESSAGES EXCEPT TO RESPOND TO THIS MESSAGE FROM ME. My explanation follows.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is my opinion that the volume of messages we have had yesterday and continuing today is unsustainable in the short term and more importantly in the long term. As a regular practice, I try
to review all messages on the list and I know that I cannot succeed at doing that in the short or long term if the volume is at the level we have experienced yesterday and today without spending near full time. I have other responsibilities so I cannot devote
100% of my time monitoring and responding to messages on our WG list. And I am sure that the rest of you are no different than me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On a personal note, I tried to take most of the day off yesterday (Thursday) and was off-line most of the day except for my phone. When I had very brief opportunities, I tried to monitor the
list but barely made a dent in it. I share this to let you know that I am presently way behind in reviewing all the WG messages and I want everyone to understand that with regard to what I am saying in this message. I will do my best to catch up today.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">More important than the sustainability of the message volume, I do not believe that the extensive discussion that has been happening the last 36 hours or so is an effective way for us to debate
the issues in front of us. In saying that I do not intend to minimize anything that has been said. In the small portion of messages that I have read, I have seen a lot of very good points as well as a lot of valid differences of opinion and issues that we
will have to explore in more depth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I believe that we need to come up with a method of deliberating on the issues that is manageable for all of us. I do not know what that is yet but will initiate discussion with the Leadership
Team today and with the full WG in the days ahead. One thing I do believe is that we will likely have to narrow our discussion points at any given time and require members to stay focused on those points. I realize that that is hard to do because of the
interdependency of issues so we need to figure out how we can do that and still have productive discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If any of you have ideas regarding how we can manage list discussion as well as meeting discussions in a more effective manner, please feel free to share them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please understand that my HALT on issues list discussion is TEMPORARY. We will resume list discussion in a few days because it is a critical part of our process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In the meantime, please have a good weekend.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 28, 2017 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement association resolution regarding domain registration data<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">+45637281. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Let's get back to the program pls. <br><br>
Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Paul Keating, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Apr 28, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net">sam@lanfranco.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Another stupid question:<br><br>
Not targeting Michele here, but in general isn't much of this getting way outside ICANN's remit,
<br>
and hence outside the ring-fence that circumscribes what we are supposed to be doing here?<br><br>
Sam L.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 4/28/2017 9:00 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">He’s saying two things:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">1 – non-EU registrars should give up selling into the EU</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2 – EU registrars should stop selling outside the EU</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Of course there’s a multitude of issues with this proposal, but at least it’s an actual fairly concrete “idea” or “strawman”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><h3> <etc. deleted><o:p></o:p></h3></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
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