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Thank you Lisa.<br>
<br>
I was going to suggest it might be worth exploring some sort of
integration between issue-specific email threads and this resource,
but on second thought I think having the issues / positions clearly
stated the way it is now without the additional clutter of email
threads is probably better.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tamir<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-04-28 12:22 PM, Lisa Phifer
wrote:<br>
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type="cite">
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Tamir,<br>
<br>
While it is not quite the same thing, you can find the list of
questions
posed by this WG's charter at the link below, hyperlinked to
tables of
input documents gathered by this WG, categorized by question:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Questions">
https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Questions<br>
<br>
</a>Dozens of input documents for the first three questions on
Users/Purposes, Data Elements, and Privacy were summarized by this
WG
last year. You'll find links to those three summary documents
produced by
the WG above each of those topic tables.<br>
<br>
The WG subsequently moved forward from input summaries to possible
requirements to key concepts. We are now working on drafting key
concepts
for the first 5 questions, with both weekly poll results and WG
agreements recorded here:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Phase+1+Documents">
https://community.icann.org/display/gTLDRDS/Phase+1+Documents</a><br>
<br>
Although we haven't reached new agreements in the past few WG
calls, all
rough agreements reached by the WG are recorded in the working
document
found at the top of that outputs page.<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa<br>
<br>
<br>
At 10:05 AM 4/28/2017, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tisrael@cippic.ca">tisrael@cippic.ca</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite">Does ICANN have an
issue-tracking mechanism? Something like:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues">
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/6">
https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/6</a><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tamir<br>
<br>
On 2017-04-28 11:18 AM, Dotzero wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite"><br>
+1 to having an open list and a summary list.<br>
<br>
-1 to Nathalie suggesting that the debate is just for legal
experts. This
encompasses wider issues and principles than just law.
Something may be
legal but not ethical, moral or practical. If this were only
about law
then we could just pass a law that bad people shouldn't do bad
things and
be done with it.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 11:07 AM, nathalie coupet via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<dl>
<dd>+1 for having a scribe<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>+1 for having a debate of legal experts (this is way
above our
heads)Â <br>
</dd>
<dd>Â <br>
</dd>
<dd>Nathalie <br>
<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>On Friday, April 28, 2017 11:03 AM, Michael Peddemors
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael@linuxmagic.com">michael@linuxmagic.com</a>
> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>On 17-04-28 07:47 AM, Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
wrote:<br>
</dd>
<dd>> If any of you have ideas regarding how we can
manage list
discussion as<br>
</dd>
<dd>> well as meeting discussions in a more effective
manner, please
feel free<br>
</dd>
<dd>> to share them.<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>Might I make a suggestion? Have two lists, one for
unfettered,
and <br>
</dd>
<dd>possibly heated discussion, as this topic is bound to
generate strong
<br>
</dd>
<dd>opinions. This should require 'less' moderation.<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>The other list should be a 'minutes' list, for those who
believe in
<br>
</dd>
<dd>being part of this, that do not have time to read all
opinions.<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>It would require a dedicated 'minute taker', but it
could be very
<br>
</dd>
<dd>helpful to reduce many of the emails to their important
salient
position <br>
</dd>
<dd>statements.<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>Eg.. (Using a short example from me)<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>(This is what would be posted on the unfettered list)<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>An example why free unfettered access to whois
information is
important.<br>
</dd>
<dd>We are engaged in identifying actors in spam/fraud/abuse
in the email
<br>
</dd>
<dd>space, and when we see..<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>#Â 66.155.32.4Â Â Â Â Â Â
     2 TheAbigailHaley.com<br>
</dd>
<dd>#Â 66.155.32.10Â Â Â Â Â Â
   2Â
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://okfamilies.com">okfamilies.com</a><br>
</dd>
<dd>#Â 66.155.32.15Â Â Â Â Â Â
   1 GameLandNow.com<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>It is important to see if this is a single actor, or
multiple
actors..<br>
</dd>
<dd>In this case, whois reveals that it is a single actor..<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>(This is what would be posted on the 'minutes' list.<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>Michael P: Supports the position of unfettered valid
whois access, in
<br>
</dd>
<dd>order to identify in aggregate activity across multiple
domains, as
part <br>
</dd>
<dd>of spam/fraud/abuse detection<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>And if there are arguments against that position, it
could be as
simple <br>
</dd>
<dd>as ..<br>
<br>
</dd>
<dd>John F, Frank C, and 4 others support Michael P's
position<br>
</dd>
<dd>Lisa T, Jay F, and 3 others have arguments against (See
List)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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</dd>
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</dd>
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