<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493388143383_133606"><span>+1 for having a scribe</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493388143383_133606"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493388143383_133606" dir="ltr">+1 for having a debate of legal experts (this is way above our heads) </div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493388143383_133608"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493388143383_133610">Nathalie </div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, April 28, 2017 11:03 AM, Michael Peddemors <michael@linuxmagic.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div dir="ltr">On 17-04-28 07:47 AM, Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br clear="none">> If any of you have ideas regarding how we can manage list discussion as<br clear="none">> well as meeting discussions in a more effective manner, please feel free<br clear="none">> to share them.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Might I make a suggestion? Have two lists, one for unfettered, and <br clear="none">possibly heated discussion, as this topic is bound to generate strong <br clear="none">opinions. This should require 'less' moderation.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The other list should be a 'minutes' list, for those who believe in <br clear="none">being part of this, that do not have time to read all opinions.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It would require a dedicated 'minute taker', but it could be very <br clear="none">helpful to reduce many of the emails to their important salient position <br clear="none">statements.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Eg.. (Using a short example from me)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">(This is what would be posted on the unfettered list)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">An example why free unfettered access to whois information is important.<br clear="none">We are engaged in identifying actors in spam/fraud/abuse in the email <br clear="none">space, and when we see..<br clear="none"><br clear="none"># 66.155.32.4 2 TheAbigailHaley.com<br clear="none"># 66.155.32.10 2 okfamilies.com<br clear="none"># 66.155.32.15 1 GameLandNow.com<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It is important to see if this is a single actor, or multiple actors..<br clear="none">In this case, whois reveals that it is a single actor..<br clear="none"><br clear="none">(This is what would be posted on the 'minutes' list.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Michael P: Supports the position of unfettered valid whois access, in <br clear="none">order to identify in aggregate activity across multiple domains, as part <br clear="none">of spam/fraud/abuse detection<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And if there are arguments against that position, it could be as simple <br clear="none">as ..<br clear="none"><br clear="none">John F, Frank C, and 4 others support Michael P's position<br clear="none">Lisa T, Jay F, and 3 others have arguments against (See List)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">"Catch the Magic of Linux..."<br clear="none">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc.<br clear="none">Visit us at <a shape="rect" href="http://www.linuxmagic.com/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxmagic.com </a>@linuxmagic<br clear="none">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">A Wizard IT Company - For More Info <a shape="rect" href="http://www.wizard.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.wizard.ca</a><br clear="none">"LinuxMagic" a Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd.<br clear="none">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada<br clear="none"><br clear="none">This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended<br clear="none">solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed.<br clear="none">Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely<br clear="none">those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company.<div class="yqt5077813899" id="yqtfd90626"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><br clear="none"></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>