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<p>I would also be wary about that. Selling data that we do not own
the rights to is even more problematic than publishing it. No
registrant ever agreed to have his data used as a commodity. <br>
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harvesters is through a licensing set-up. There are
legitimate reasons to have the full dataset, and these should
be accommodated in a controlled environment. Preventing bad
harvesters is worthwhile, prevent all harvesting is another
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Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is
a red herring..<br>
There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain
data, and<br>
others way to prevent such abuse..<br>
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Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting
the many<br>
legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..<br>
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And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case
scenario which can't<br>
be addressed by other means..<br>
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So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes
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Who said anything about arguing for 'harvesting' as a
legitimate purpose? I didn't, and even pointed out that
there are way(s) to target harvesters..<br>
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I was pointing out the legitimate purposes of accessing the
data..<br>
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And many of those cases have already been stated, I could
re-iterate those arguments, and give examples of why 'we'
need to access the data, but again, 'harvesting' is
different than access.<br>
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Arguing that we 'have to stop harvesters' by denying access
to the data for legitimate purposes was the original point.
There are other means to target those perpetrators.. But it
shouldn't be used as a 'scary boogeyman' exists, so everyone
lock your doors.<br>
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To paraphrase.. "Just because criminals exist, doesn't mean
that civilians can't walk the street". That is a 'gut
reaction' of fear, and not a solution. Better policing,
targeting criminals, or carry a big stick solves that :)<br>
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Nuff said.. as I said, lets' place case scenario's and
argument each on their merits.. and not react to a
'undefinable' threat..
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