<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Sorry, that’s not likely a valid example. That information is made public by publishing it in the DNS in the first place, by the direct decision of the publisher (DNS operator). If the nameserver records aren’t in the DNS, the domain doesn’t work and if the nameserver records aren’t in the DNS, you can’t get the SOA record. All I need is the domain name to start with, dig the nameservers for the domain, and then dig the SOA. Importantly, I DO NOT NEED “whois” or anything else similar to get to these data records, so these are all public data points that anyone can anonymously access at any scale for all operational domains on the Internet. Publishing the same data (nameserver related to domain) in a different database (whois, RDS, whatever) doesn’t make it more public - it’s been put out there already.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For those of you not familiar with the intricacies of how DNS SOA (Start of Authority) records work, the third entry on each line in the examples below is actually an e-mail address, where the first dot should be replaced by an “@“ symbol. So for the first one, the e-mail address for the entity claiming authority over the <a href="http://gmail.com" class="">gmail.com</a> zone is <a href="mailto:dns-admin@google.com" class="">dns-admin@google.com</a>. As Chris mentioned, these are going to largely be technical contacts, but not always. However, that’s the purpose for the field - technical authority over the zone, so putting your “personal” information into that field would mean you want to publicly publish your e-mail address in the DNS so anyone can reach it. I don’t think we’re trying to tell people to *not* do things like that in this WP. Regardless, you have to supply a validly formatted SOA record for DNS to work, including an entry that is plausible as an e-mail address for that field. That doesn’t require the e-mail address to be answered, monitored, or even deliverable, so you could put <a href="http://test.test.com" class="">test.test.com</a> (<a href="mailto:test@test.com" class="">test@test.com</a>) in there if you don’t want things to be sent to you. If I remember right, some ccTLD’s would require that you actually answer a query to the SOA e-mail “back in the day” to delegate your domain - not sure if any do anymore. For far more arcane trivia around SOA records etc. see the wikipedia entry (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOA_Resource_Record" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOA_Resource_Record</a>) or this handy tutorial (<a href="https://bobcares.com/blog/understanding-soa-records/" class="">https://bobcares.com/blog/understanding-soa-records/</a>). It goes all the way back to the original DNS spec in RFC 1035.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rod<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Chris Pelling <<a href="mailto:chris@netearth.net" class="">chris@netearth.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><div class="">ok - a thought :<br class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">Thin data includes nameservers, being able to <strong class=""><u class="">mass</u></strong> collect thin data gaining NS information then allows you to do a DIG of a SOA record on the DNS service to gain the email address of the hostmaster : <br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">Some examples (radomly picked from the list) :<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://gmail.com" class="">gmail.com</a> :<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">SOA <a href="http://ns1.google.com" class="">ns1.google.com</a>. <a href="http://dns-admin.google.com" class="">dns-admin.google.com</a>. 157458041 900 900 1800 60<br class=""><a href="http://netearthone.com" class="">netearthone.com</a><br class=""></div><div class="">SOA <a href="http://ns1.netearth.net" class="">ns1.netearth.net</a>. <a href="http://root.netearthone.com" class="">root.netearthone.com</a>. 2016090201 14400 3600 1209600 86400<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://law.es" class="">law.es</a><br class=""></div><div class="">SOA <a href="http://ns1.eurodns.com" class="">ns1.eurodns.com</a>. <a href="http://hostmaster.eurodns.com" class="">hostmaster.eurodns.com</a>. 2016061402 43200 7200 1209600 86400<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://riskiq.net" class="">riskiq.net</a><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">SOA <a href="http://ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk" class="">ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk</a>. <a href="http://awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com" class="">awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com</a>. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400<br class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">Now as you can see - those above examples allow you to get (or build) an email list. Most will normally point to the providers service, but, some that are DIY'ing their hosting, it might not be.<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__" class="">Kind regards,<br class=""><br class="">Chris</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__" class=""><div data-marker="__HEADERS__" class=""><b class="">From: </b>"allison nixon" <<a href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com" class="">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">To: </b>"nathalie coupet" <<a href="mailto:nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com" class="">nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent: </b>Tuesday, 30 May, 2017 21:52:32<br class=""><b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">so can you name one specific example of how someone could abuse thin data?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:50 PM, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr" class=""><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287679" class="">Abuse</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287680" class=""> is the improper usage or treatment of an </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity" title="Entity" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287681" target="_blank" class="">entity</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287682" class="">, often to </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributive_justice" title="Distributive justice" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287683" target="_blank" class="">unfairly</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287684" class=""> or improperly gain benefit. In our context, abuse is the improper usage of WHOIS/RDS to unfairly or improperly gain access to information or to game the system. </span></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr" class=""><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr" class=""><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" class="">Here are some of the overarching principles which should guide us when building RDS: </span><br class=""></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr" class=""><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287894" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287895" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287896" class="">DATA LIFECYCLE PRIVACY PRINCIPLE PROTECTION MEASURE</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287897" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287898" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287899" class="">Collection Proportionality and purpose specification Data minimisation, Data quality</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287900" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287901" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287902" class="">Storage Accountability, Security measures, Sensitive data Confidentiality, Encryption, Pseudonomisation</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287903" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287904" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287905" class="">Sharing and processing Lawfulness and fairness, Consent, Right of access Data access control, Data leakage prevention</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287907" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287908" class="">Deletion Openness, Right to erasure Retention, Archival, Erasure</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_291686" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_291685" class="">If such principles are not respected, ICANN will be liable. Consumers don't need to have all the thin data when making a query. This could protect them and enable them to have access to the RDS without raising much opposition. </span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" class=""><br class=""></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906" class=""><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_292975" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" style="color: #222222; font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_292974" class="">Now, we could discuss the possibility for broader query types. These principles would still apply, but would be contextualized in order to take into account new sets of parameters for each broader query. By increasing granularity as much as possible, while applying these aformentioned principles, we just might find a way to accomodate everyone. </span></span></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287435" class=""> </div><div class="m_-1108286820301507687signature" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287433">Nathalie </div> <div class="m_-1108286820301507687qtdSeparateBR"><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px" class=""> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><span class=""> <div dir="ltr" class=""><span data-mce-style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" size="2" face="Arial" class=""> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:00 PM, John Horton <<a href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com" target="_blank" class="">john.horton@legitscript.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></span></div> <br class=""><br class=""> </span><div class="m_-1108286820301507687y_msg_container"><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093" class=""><div class=""><span class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#444444">I was going to reply to Natalie's email as well, but Paul's comments capture my thoughts, so: <b class="">+1. </b></div></div></span><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span data-mce-style="color: #073763; 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<br clear="none" class=""></span><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank" class="">paul@law.es</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></span><blockquote class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093yqt3775885078" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093yqt77589"><div class=""><span class=""><div class="">Natalie,</div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class="">Thank you for the email. Im copying the list because i see others have replied to your comment.</div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class="">I strenuously object to the concept. We are discussing THIN DATA ONLY HERE. Unless someone can explain to me why any of this data set has privacy concerns this is a non-issue. I would certainly appreciate someone explaining what, if any, privacy issues are perceived to be at issue here.</div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class="">Moreover, while you suggest that the idea escapes the need to declare a purpose, it does nothing but reinforce a subjective criteria based system in which the declared purpose is used to somehow limit the data being retrieved.</div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class="">If i am missing something please let me know. </div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class="">Paul</div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature" class=""><br clear="none" class="">Sent from my iPad</div></span><div class=""><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093h5"><span class=""><div class=""><br clear="none" class="">On 30 May 2017, at 21:08, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div></span><blockquote class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" class=""><span class=""><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" class="">Hi Paul,</div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" class="">In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to allow unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this particular phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse while not restricting access. </div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" class="">Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this query should not be shared. This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access. </div><div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" class=""> </div><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239558" class=""> </div><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945signature" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239560">Nathalie </div> <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div></span><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px" class=""> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><span class=""> <div dir="ltr" class=""><span data-mce-style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" size="2" face="Arial" class=""> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></span></div> <br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""> </span><div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945y_msg_container"><div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320" class=""><div class="">
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<span class=""><br clear="none" class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:17 PM<br clear="none" class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Lisa Phifer <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com" target="_blank" class="">lisa@corecom.com</a>>; RDS PDP WG <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br clear="none" class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></span></div>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM<br clear="none" class="">
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<b class="">Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></span></div>
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<b class="">Action Item: Nathalie Coupet and any other WG members who wish to do so to propose to the WG list a new principle on proportionality for "thin data." All WG members to comment on that proposed principle in advance of next call.<br clear="none" class="">
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</b>we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on proportionality for "thin data" access.<br clear="none" class="">
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