<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I very much understand the issue of privacy.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I don't see how my comment is in conflict with yours. &nbsp;</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">And data gleaned from a file is not personal data merely because the file related to an individual. &nbsp;There must remain a link connecting the data to the individual and the data must be of a personal nature. &nbsp;I see nothing in thin data that could be personal in nature so as to warrant this discussion.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 30 May 2017, at 23:47, Stephanie Perrin &lt;<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I have explained this
          with nauseating repetition on the list, and I am sorry to do
          it again.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Data that is gleaned
          from a file related to an individual, ie in this case their
          registration data, even if it is nameservers and the like, is
          their personal data.&nbsp; eg.&nbsp; If my birthplace is Ottawa Ontario,
          Ottawa ONtario becomes my personal info as my birthplace, the
          actual place is not personal information.&nbsp; It is the
          association with the individual that counts.&nbsp; Now in the case
          of "thin data", what we are looking at is non-nominative
          data.....the data is not identifiable as personal data on its
          own.&nbsp; However, as Canatucci said in Copenhagen during our
          meeting, personal data does not lose its character as personal
          data simply by having the identifier stripped.&nbsp; It is clearly
          much less sensitive, but it remains personal to a varying extent,
          depending on the characteristics of each data element.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-05-30 17:40, Paul Keating
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Im sorry but i don't see the logic here (or the legal
        constraint)</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Privacy laws protect personal data of
        INDIVIDUALS. &nbsp;They do t protect non-personal data or data from
        non-individuals.</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Nothing on the list below is personal
        data. &nbsp;And no e of the principles given by Natalie apply.</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">The fact that i could use the data to
        obtain other data is irrelevant. &nbsp;I can use a car to rob a bank
        but that itself is not a reason to restrict access to
        automobiles.</div>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">Me thinks you are trying to create a
        scarcity for some reason.<br>
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        Sent from my iPad</div>
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        On 30 May 2017, at 23:22, Chris Pelling &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chris@netearth.net">chris@netearth.net</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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            <div>ok - a thought :<br>
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            <div>Thin data includes nameservers, being able to <strong><u>mass</u></strong>
              collect thin data gaining NS information then allows you
              to do a DIG of a SOA record on the DNS service to gain the
              email address of the hostmaster : <br data-mce-bogus="1">
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            <div>Some examples (radomly picked from the list)&nbsp; :<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>
              :<br data-mce-bogus="1">
            </div>
            <div>SOA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ns1.google.com">ns1.google.com</a>. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://dns-admin.google.com">dns-admin.google.com</a>.
              157458041 900 900 1800 60<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://netearthone.com">netearthone.com</a><br>
            </div>
            <div>SOA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ns1.netearth.net">ns1.netearth.net</a>. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://root.netearthone.com">root.netearthone.com</a>.
              2016090201 14400 3600 1209600 86400<br>
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            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://law.es">law.es</a><br>
            </div>
            <div>SOA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ns1.eurodns.com">ns1.eurodns.com</a>. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hostmaster.eurodns.com">hostmaster.eurodns.com</a>.
              2016061402 43200 7200 1209600 86400<br>
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            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://riskiq.net">riskiq.net</a><br data-mce-bogus="1">
            </div>
            <div>SOA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk">ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk</a>.
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com">awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com</a>.
              1 7200 900 1209600 86400<br>
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            </div>
            <div>Now as you can see - those above examples allow you to
              get (or build) an email list.&nbsp; Most will normally point to
              the providers service, but, some that are DIY'ing their
              hosting, it might not be.<br data-mce-bogus="1">
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            <div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__">Kind regards,<br>
              <br>
              Chris</div>
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            <div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"allison nixon"
              &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>To: </b>"nathalie coupet" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com">nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, 30 May, 2017 21:52:32<br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on
              Proportionality for "Thin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Data"access<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">so can you name one specific example of how
                someone could abuse thin data?</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:50
                  PM, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                        <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287679">Abuse</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287680">&nbsp;is
                            the improper usage or treatment of an&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity" title="Entity" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287681" target="_blank">entity</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287682">,
                            often to&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributive_justice" title="Distributive justice" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287683" target="_blank">unfairly</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287684">&nbsp;or
                            improperly gain benefit. In our context,
                            abuse is the improper usage of WHOIS/RDS to
                            unfairly or improperly gain access to
                            information or to game the system.&nbsp;</span></div>
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                        <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437" dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">Here
                            are some of the overarching principles which
                            should guide us when building RDS:&nbsp;</span><br>
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                          </span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287894"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287895" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287896">DATA
                              LIFECYCLE &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;PRIVACY
                              PRINCIPLE &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PROTECTION MEASURE</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287897"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287898" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287899">Collection
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Proportionality and
                              purpose specification &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                              Data minimisation, Data quality</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287900"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287901" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
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                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287902">Storage
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Accountability, Security
                              measures, Sensitive data &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                              Confidentiality, Encryption,
                              Pseudonomisation</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287903"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287904" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287905">Sharing
                              and processing Lawfulness and fairness,
                              Consent, Right of access &nbsp;Data access
                              control, Data leakage prevention</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287907" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287908">Deletion
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Openness,
                              Right to erasure &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Retention, Archival, Erasure</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
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                            </span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
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                            </span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_291686" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_291685">If
                              such principles are not respected, ICANN
                              will be liable. Consumers don't need to
                              have all the thin data when making a
                              query. This could protect them and enable
                              them to have access to the RDS without
                              raising much opposition. &nbsp;</span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
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                            </span></span></div>
                        <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906"><span id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_292975" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
                            sans-serif;" style="color: #222222;
                            font-family: sans-serif;" face="sans-serif" color="#222222"><span style="font-size:14px" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_292974">Now,
                              we could discuss the possibility for
                              broader query types. These principles
                              would still apply, but would be
                              contextualized in order to take into
                              account new sets of parameters for each
                              broader query. By increasing granularity
                              as much as possible, while applying these
                              aformentioned principles, we just might
                              find a way to accomodate everyone. &nbsp;</span></span></div>
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                        <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287435">&nbsp;</div>
                        <div class="m_-1108286820301507687signature" id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287433">Nathalie&nbsp;</div>
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                                    2017 4:00 PM, John Horton &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com" target="_blank">john.horton@legitscript.com</a>&gt;
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                                      <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, May 30, 2017
                                          at 12:57 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>&gt;</span>
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                                                <div>Natalie,</div>
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                                                <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature">Thank
                                                  you for the email.&nbsp; Im
                                                  copying the list
                                                  because i see others
                                                  have replied to your
                                                  comment.</div>
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                                                <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature">I
                                                  strenuously object to
                                                  the concept.&nbsp; We are
                                                  discussing THIN DATA
                                                  ONLY HERE.&nbsp; Unless
                                                  someone can explain to
                                                  me why any of this
                                                  data set has privacy
                                                  concerns this is a
                                                  non-issue.&nbsp; I would
                                                  certainly appreciate
                                                  someone explaining
                                                  what, if any, privacy
                                                  issues are perceived
                                                  to be at issue here.</div>
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                                                <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature">Moreover,
                                                  while you suggest that
                                                  the idea escapes the
                                                  need to declare a
                                                  purpose, it does
                                                  nothing but reinforce
                                                  a subjective criteria
                                                  based system in which
                                                  the declared purpose
                                                  is used to somehow
                                                  limit the data being
                                                  retrieved.</div>
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                                                <div id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945AppleMailSignature">If
                                                  i am missing something
                                                  please let me know.&nbsp;</div>
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                                                  Paul</div>
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                                                      On 30 May 2017, at
                                                      21:08, nathalie
                                                      coupet via
                                                      gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
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                                                          Paul,</div>
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                                                          the context of
                                                          thin data, in
                                                          view of the
                                                          opposition of
                                                          some to allow
unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of
                                                          proportionality
                                                          serves as an
                                                          over-arching
                                                          principle at
                                                          this
                                                          particular
                                                          phase in our
                                                          work in order
                                                          to protect
                                                          data from
                                                          abuse while
                                                          not
                                                          restricting
                                                          access. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556">Thin
                                                          data must be
                                                          proportionate
                                                          to the query,
                                                          be useful for
                                                          that
                                                          particular
                                                          query. All and
                                                          any other thin
                                                          data foreign
                                                          to this query
                                                          should not be
                                                          shared. This
                                                          principle
                                                          potentially
                                                          avoids having
                                                          to resort to
                                                          'legitimate
                                                          purposes'
                                                          which cannot
                                                          be verified
                                                          for
                                                          unauthenticated
                                                          access. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945signature" id="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239560">Nathalie&nbsp;</div>
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                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          May 30, 2017
                                                          2:44 PM,
                                                          "Gomes, Chuck
                                                          via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
                                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                                          unable to
                                                          speak on the
                                                          call, I
                                                          encourage her
                                                          to describe
                                                          the nature of
                                                          the issue on
                                                          this thread.</span></div>
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                                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann. org</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg- bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Paul
                                                          Keating<span class=""><br clear="none">
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Tuesday, May
                                                          30, 2017 2:17
                                                          PM<br clear="none">
                                                          <b>To:</b>
                                                          Lisa Phifer
                                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com" target="_blank">lisa@corecom.com</a>&gt;; RDS PDP WG &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Im sorry to have missed the call but had a
                                                          client
                                                          engagement.</span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Can someone briefly describe the nature of the
                                                          issue?</span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"> &nbsp;</span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Thanks</span></div>
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                                                          <div class="m_-1108286820301507687yiv8771876093m_-2551964071040587945yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Paul</span></div>
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                                                          Lisa Phifer
                                                          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com" target="_blank">lisa@corecom.com</a>&gt;<span class=""><br clear="none">
                                                          <b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
                                                          May 30, 2017
                                                          at 7:52 PM<br clear="none">
                                                          <b>To: </b>RDS
                                                          PDP WG &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
                                                          <b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                                          Principle on
                                                          Proportionality
                                                          for "Thin
                                                          Data"access</span></span></div>
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                                                          <b>Action
                                                          Item: Nathalie
                                                          Coupet and any
                                                          other WG
                                                          members who
                                                          wish to do so
                                                          to propose to
                                                          the WG list a
                                                          new principle
                                                          on
                                                          proportionality
                                                          for "thin
                                                          data." All WG
                                                          members to
                                                          comment on
                                                          that proposed
                                                          principle in
                                                          advance of
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                                                          </b>we are
                                                          starting a new
                                                          thread here
                                                          which anyone
                                                          may reply to
                                                          if they wish
                                                          to propose (or
                                                          respond to) a
                                                          new principle
                                                          on
                                                          proportionality
                                                          for "thin
                                                          data" access.<br clear="none">
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                                                          Best, Lisa</span></div>
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