<p dir="ltr">You're seriously proposing that registrars should not disclose the status of a domain, like whether it is registered or not?</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 30, 2017 8:06 PM, "Rob Golding" <<a href="mailto:rob.golding@astutium.com">rob.golding@astutium.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Allison asked ...<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
define abuse because i am not sure how to abuse thin data<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It's difficult to describe how thin data is abused currently without knowing exactly which items will be in the "thin data list", but 2 items which are constantly and continuously used to abuse are<br>
* expiry date<br>
* status<br>
<br>
With fake renewal notices, seo solicitations, dodgy transfer attempts, social engineering on hosts and many other scams<br>
<br>
Some registrar WHOIS excludes status, I imagine for that reason.<br>
<br>
Rob wrote ...<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
All I need is the domain name to start with, dig the nameservers for the domain, and then dig the SOA.<br>
Importantly, I DO NOT NEED "whois" or anything else similar to get to these data records<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Which is exactly why including them in whois/rds is just going to add bloat and errors.<br>
<br>
If "thin data" was restricted to<br>
* domain name<br>
* registrar<br>
<br>
Then I'd have no problem with unauthenticated queries (subject to sensible rate limiting etc) - beyond that I think people need to say who they are and why they want the information<br>
<br>
Rob<br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/l<wbr>istinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><br>
</blockquote></div></div>