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<p>Aren't we still talking about Thin data? We aren't talking about
PII here. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/30/2017 02:22 PM, Farell Folly
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hello Nathalie,
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<div dir="auto">I almost agree with your definition of
proportionality but reticent on the last sentence and need to
be sure we are in the same page</div>
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<div dir="auto">>>><span
style="font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida
grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This
principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate
purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated
access. </span></div>
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<div dir="auto">I always defend the need for legitimate purpose
for all requests even for unauthenticated access because I
think if somenone wants to know who I am he/she must at least
tell me who he is.... Or if someone wants to know I do as
business he must at least state the purpose.. This is how I
see proportionality.</div>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Regards<br>
@__f_f__<br>
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PhD Candidate, Universität der Bundeswehr München<br>
Computer Security | Internet of Things<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 30 mai 2017 19:08, "nathalie
coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
a écrit :<br type="attribution">
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dir="ltr">In the context of thin data, in view of
the opposition of some to allow unauthenticated
access to all the thin data, the principle of
proportionality serves as an over-arching principle
at this particular phase in our work in order to
protect data from abuse while not restricting
access. </div>
<div
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dir="ltr">Thin data must be proportionate to the
query, be useful for that particular query. All and
any other thin data foreign to this query should not
be shared. <span style="font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida
grande",sans-serif">This principle
potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate
purposes' which cannot be verified for
unauthenticated access. </span></div>
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id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239560">Nathalie </div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On
Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes,
Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Because
Nathalie was the originator and
was unable to speak on the call, I
encourage her to describe the
nature of the issue on this
thread.</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Chuck</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> <a
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
[mailto:<a
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target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Keating<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May
30, 2017 2:17 PM<br
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<b>To:</b> Lisa Phifer <<a
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href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com"
target="_blank">lisa@corecom.com</a>>;
RDS PDP WG <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Principle on Proportionality
for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt">Im
sorry to have missed the call
but had a client engagement.</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt">Can
someone briefly describe the
nature of the issue?</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt">Thanks</span></div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">From:
</span></b><span
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Lisa Phifer <<a
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rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com" target="_blank">lisa@corecom.com</a>><br
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 30,
2017 at 7:52 PM<br
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<b>To: </b>RDS PDP WG <<a
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<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Principle on Proportionality
for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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style="font-size:10.5pt">All,
per today's call action
item:<br clear="none">
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<b>Action Item: Nathalie
Coupet and any other WG
members who wish to do
so to propose to the WG
list a new principle on
proportionality for
"thin data." All WG
members to comment on
that proposed principle
in advance of next call.<br
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<br clear="none">
</b>we are starting a new
thread here which anyone
may reply to if they wish
to propose (or respond to)
a new principle on
proportionality for "thin
data" access.<br
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Best, Lisa</span></div>
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