<div dir="auto">Hello Nathalie,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I almost agree with your definition of proportionality but reticent on the last sentence and need to be sure we are in the same page</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">>>><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access. </span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I always defend the need for legitimate purpose for all requests even for unauthenticated access because I think if somenone wants to know who I am he/she must at least tell me who he is.... Or if someone wants to know I do as business he must at least state the purpose.. This is how I see proportionality.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Regards<br>@__f_f__<br><br>PhD Candidate, Universität der Bundeswehr München<br>Computer Security | Internet of Things<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf">https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf</a><br>________________________________.<br>Mail sent from my mobile phone. Excuse for brievety.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 30 mai 2017 19:08, "nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">Hi Paul,</div><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to allow unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this particular phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse while not restricting access. </div><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this query should not be shared. <span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida grande",sans-serif">This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access. </span></div><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr"> </div><div></div><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239558"> </div><div class="m_-1915013224527728896signature" id="m_-1915013224527728896yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239560">Nathalie </div><div class="elided-text"> <div class="m_-1915013224527728896qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="m_-1915013224527728896yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="m_-1915013224527728896y_msg_container"><div id="m_-1915013224527728896yiv0605036320"><div>
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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<b>Action Item: Nathalie Coupet and any other WG members who wish to do so to propose to the WG list a new principle on proportionality for "thin data." All WG members to comment on that proposed principle in advance of next call.<br clear="none">
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</b>we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on proportionality for "thin data" access.<br clear="none">
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