<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Natalie,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thank you for the email. Im copying the list because i see others have replied to your comment.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I strenuously object to the concept. We are discussing THIN DATA ONLY HERE. Unless someone can explain to me why any of this data set has privacy concerns this is a non-issue. I would certainly appreciate someone explaining what, if any, privacy issues are perceived to be at issue here.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Moreover, while you suggest that the idea escapes the need to declare a purpose, it does nothing but reinforce a subjective criteria based system in which the declared purpose is used to somehow limit the data being retrieved.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">If i am missing something please let me know. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Paul</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 30 May 2017, at 21:08, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">Hi Paul,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to allow unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this particular phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse while not restricting access. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr">Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this query should not be shared. This principle potentially avoids having to resort to 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239556" dir="ltr"> </div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239558"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_239560">Nathalie </div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0605036320"><style>#yiv0605036320 #yiv0605036320 --
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<div class="yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Because Nathalie was the originator and was unable to speak on the call, I encourage her to describe the nature of the issue on this thread.</span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;">Im sorry to have missed the call but had a client engagement.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;">Can someone briefly describe the nature of the issue?</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0605036320MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;">Thanks</span></div>
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<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></div>
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</b>we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on proportionality for "thin data" access.<br clear="none">
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