<div dir="ltr">Good faith does not excuse ignorance. Such a mistake reveals the extreme tunnel vision by many self proclaimed privacy advocates here. It shows why they butt heads with people who work every day in the trenches to actually protect privacy of real- not theoretical- victims. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Again, I really think we need to dial down the level of sarcasm
here. The proportionality proposal was made in good faith.<br>
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However, I'm from a privacy advocacy organization and even I have
agreed that there are operational problems with any proposal to
limit unauthenticated access to thin WHOIS data. I agree that while
privacy is an absolutely key principle to be upheld, so is the
generativity of the Internet, and that unauthenticated access to
thin WHOIS data, much of which just replicates the information that
end users make available through their own nameservers, is part of
the permissionless innovation that underpins many real world
Internet applications.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div class="m_-4927271185857328544moz-cite-prefix">On 31/5/17 10:14 am, allison nixon
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Which includes nameservers, which are collected and
propagated by the registrars. If this is deemed sensitive
information, then the registrars should be careful sharing that
data via other outlets without tight restrictions!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:09 PM,
Michael Peddemors <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@linuxmagic.com" target="_blank">michael@linuxmagic.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 17-05-31 10:07 AM, allison nixon wrote:<br>
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the rest of it can't be. You can't put a DNS query
behind a EULA. We<br>
can't pretend there are restrictions on this data.<br>
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We aren't discussing DNS or any other places that data is
available as part of this working group. Only the informed
consent of data held in whois thin data.
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