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<p>I concede that SOAs can be used in abuse, I have no debate with
it which is why I didn't comment. The fact of the matter, turning
on your wifi adapter and connecting to the internet gives an
opportunity to abuse.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is the people in the trenches fighting
this abuse are the ones saying the changes proposed in this group
will make our jobs harder, and that community making those
suggestions is suggesting that THEY know what is needed in OUR
trench while having no experience whatsoever in the field.<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2017 10:20 AM, Chris Pelling
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:221230256.300420.1496244024052.JavaMail.zimbra@netearth.net">
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
<div>John,</div>
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</div>
<div>I refer you to my original email, the question was how
could it be abused, I gave an answer, I did not expect hours
or reading on that answer - but it was a fair answer, maybe an
edge case, but still a correct answer.</div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>I have not said anything about privacy, all I said was this
can gain you an email address by working the system.</div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>Similar someone (I think you Paul) said there is no
correlation between IP address and getting personal data
(something along that line) - thats wrong too, as the RIR's
hold records, LIRs populate that date held by RIRs and
depending on how and when this was updated, could provide
personal information (more likely company / corporate info)
because in the old days (talking 20 years ago now) records and
even 30 years ago for ARIN personal information <span
style="text-decoration: underline;"
data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>could</strong></span>
have been used.</div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>For those who do not know how to lookup an IP: whois
<ip> ie. jwhois 80.251.17.0</div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>For those who do not know the accronyms :</div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>RIR:</div>
<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"
data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">Regional
Internet Registries (</span><b style="color: #222222;
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">RIRs</b><span
style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;" data-mce-style="color: #222222;
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;">) are nonprofit corporations that administer
and register Internet Protocol (IP) address space and
Autonomous System (AS) numbers within a defined region. </span><b
style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
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#222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;
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2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">RIRs</b><span style="color: #222222; font-family:
arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"
data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"> also
work together on joint projects.</span></div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>LIR:</div>
<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"
data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">A </span><b
style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;
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normal; font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;
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text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style="color:
#222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
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2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">local Internet registry</b><span style="color:
#222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
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!important; float: none;" data-mce-style="color: #222222;
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text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;"> (</span><b style="color: #222222;
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
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initial;" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">LIR</b><span
style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;" data-mce-style="color: #222222;
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;">) is an organization that has been allocated a
block of IP addresses by a </span><b style="color: #222222;
font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align:
left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
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text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;" data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family:
arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">regional Internet
registry</b><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"
data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"> (RIR),
and that assigns most parts of this block to its own
customers.</span></div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div>ARIN:</div>
<div><span style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;"
data-mce-style="color: #222222; font-family: arial,
sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">The
American Registry for Internet Numbers is the Regional
Internet Registry for Canada, the United States, and many
Caribbean and North Atlantic islands. (first RIR if memory
serves)</span></div>
<div><br data-mce-bogus="1">
</div>
<div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__">Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Chris</div>
<br>
<hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__">
<div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"John Bambenek"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com"><jcb@bambenekconsulting.com></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Chris Pelling" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chris@netearth.net"><chris@netearth.net></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Paul Keating" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paul@law.es"><paul@law.es></a>,
"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 31 May, 2017 15:50:25<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on
Proportionality for "Thin Data"access<br>
</div>
<br>
<div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__">It is still stored by the
provider in a service operated by the provider and edited with
an interface created by the provider using whatever business
logic or validation that is written by the provider. Fine,
control is not the precise word.<br>
<br>
All that being said, if SOA is ok even when editable only by
an interface by the provider then so is all WHOIS data which
is entered by the consumer. It really is either/or here. You
can't on one hand say there are no privacy implications of SOA
and then turn around when you have an almost identical set of
facts and cry privacy foul over whois.<br>
<br>
j<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2017 9:46 AM, Chris
Pelling wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:2014884081.300126.1496242000129.JavaMail.zimbra@netearth.net">
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color:
#000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: Arial; font-size:
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<div>John,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You are entirely wrong in your statement : <span
style="color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size:
16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
#ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;" data-mce-style="color:
#000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
#ffffff; text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;">Point in fact, for
consumers, SOA is NOT under control of the consumer.</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yet many of the largest and paid service allow you to
edit just that record as the consumer.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Chris</div>
<br>
<hr id="zwchr">
<div><b>From: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>To: </b>"Paul Keating" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><paul@law.es></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 31 May, 2017 15:14:53<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle
on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access<br>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>Point in fact, for consumers, SOA is NOT under
control of the consumer. I would bet a very rare set
of consumers who own domains actually run their own
DNS servers. They are either using the registrar or
their hosting provider. </div>
<br>
<div>Sure they put in the data. But that is also true of
whois/rds. No one does this for the consumer. They put
in all their own data. Considering the number of
domains under the control of various registrars that
still accept all 0s for phone number, no one verifies
that data either. </div>
<br>
<div>This does, however, reinforce that making whois for
free solves almost all of this issue. If consumers
have a true choice that's free and the choices are
explained, all of these privacy issues almost
completely are resolved. </div>
<br>
<div>J<br>
<br>
<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On May 31, 2017, at 08:38, Paul Keating <<a
href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>+1!<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>
On 31 May 2017, at 11:38, Victoria Sheckler <<a
href="mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">vsheckler@riaa.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif;"
data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt;
font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> <a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 30, 2017
10:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Pelling <<a
href="mailto:chris@netearth.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">chris@netearth.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Principle on Proportionality for "Thin
Data"access</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is a pretty
strained example, since the RDS is
irrelevant here. You can get the SOAs in
the examples as soon as you know the
domain name. You have no need to consult
RDS at all. And the SOA is completely
under the control of the DNS operator, and
in the absence of Internet Protocol Police
you can put whatever you want in there for
your own zones. No real dns admin has
trusted that field for years. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This repetitious and
always fruitless discussion of whether
anyone can get any data to "abuse" out of
the thin data seems to miss the point of
why we started with thin data: it was
supposed to be easy. I've yet to hear
even one remotely plausible issue with
respect to any of this data, because it's
all needed by virtue of creating a name
space on the Internet. That's what domain
name registrations do, so if you don't
want to expose this much data you
shouldn't register domain names. Unless
someone can come up with a single concrete
example of something problematic, I'd like
us to move on to a topic where there's
some substance to discuss. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">A</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew Sullivan </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please excuse my
clumbsy thums. </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom:
12.0pt;"><br>
On May 30, 2017, at 17:22, Chris Pelling
<<a href="mailto:chris@netearth.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chris@netearth.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top: 5.0pt;
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data-mce-style="margin-top: 5.0pt;
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">ok
- a thought :</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Thin
data includes nameservers, being
able to <strong><span
style="text-decoration:
underline;"
data-mce-style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">mass</span></span></strong>
collect thin data gaining NS
information then allows you to do
a DIG of a SOA record on the DNS
service to gain the email address
of the hostmaster : </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Some
examples (radomly picked from the
list) :</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a
href="http://gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gmail.com</a>
:</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">SOA
<a href="http://ns1.google.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.google.com</a>.
<a
href="http://dns-admin.google.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
dns-admin.google.com</a>.
157458041 900 900 1800 60<br>
<a href="http://netearthone.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">netearthone.com</a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">SOA
<a href="http://ns1.netearth.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.netearth.net</a>.
<a
href="http://root.netearthone.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
root.netearthone.com</a>.
2016090201 14400 3600 1209600
86400</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a
href="http://law.es"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">law.es</a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">SOA
<a href="http://ns1.eurodns.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.eurodns.com</a>.
<a
href="http://hostmaster.eurodns.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
hostmaster.eurodns.com</a>.
2016061402 43200 7200 1209600
86400</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><a
href="http://riskiq.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">riskiq.net</a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">SOA
<a
href="http://ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk</a>.
<a
href="http://awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com</a>.
1 7200 900 1209600 86400</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Now
as you can see - those above
examples allow you to get (or
build) an email list. Most will
normally point to the providers
service, but, some that are
DIY'ing their hosting, it might
not be.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Kind
regards,<br>
<br>
Chris</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
</div>
<div class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align: center;"
data-mce-style="text-align: center;"
align="center"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">
<hr id="zwchr" size="2"
align="center" width="100%"> </span></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">"allison
nixon" <<a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"nathalie coupet" <<a
href="mailto:nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, 30 May,
2017 21:52:32<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on
Proportionality for
"Thin Data"access</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
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</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;">so can you name one
specific example of how someone
could abuse thin data?</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif; color:
black;">On Tue, May 30, 2017
at 4:50 PM, nathalie coupet
via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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<div>
<div
id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Abuse</span></b><span
style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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the improper usage or
treatment of an </span><span
style="font-size:
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color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: black;"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity"
target="_blank"
title="Entity"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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often to </span><span
style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: black;"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributive_justice"
target="_blank"
title="Distributive
justice"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;"> or
improperly gain
benefit. In our
context, abuse is the
improper usage of
WHOIS/RDS to unfairly
or improperly gain
access to information
or to game the
system. </span><span
style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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</div>
<div
id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Here
are some of the
overarching principles
which should guide us
when building RDS: </span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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</div>
<div
id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287894">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">DATA
LIFECYCLE
PRIVACY
PRINCIPLE
PROTECTION MEASURE</span><span
style="font-size:
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id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287897">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Collection
Proportionality and
purpose specification
Data minimisation,
Data quality</span><span
style="font-size:
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color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287900">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Storage
Accountability,
Security measures,
Sensitive data
Confidentiality,
Encryption,
Pseudonomisation</span><span
style="font-size:
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color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Sharing
and processing
Lawfulness and
fairness, Consent,
Right of access Data
access control, Data
leakage prevention</span><span
style="font-size:
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'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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</div>
<div
id="m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:
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data-mce-style="background:
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style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Deletion
Openness,
Right to erasure
Retention,
Archival, Erasure</span><span
style="font-size:
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color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">If
such principles are
not respected, ICANN
will be liable.
Consumers don't need
to have all the thin
data when making a
query. This could
protect them and
enable them to have
access to the RDS
without raising much
opposition. </span><span
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data-mce-style="font-size:
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color: #222222;">Now,
we could discuss the
possibility for
broader query types.
These principles would
still apply, but would
be contextualized in
order to take into
account new sets of
parameters for each
broader query. By
increasing granularity
as much as possible,
while applying these
aformentioned
principles, we just
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Tuesday, May 30,
2017 4:00 PM,
John Horton <<a
href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">john.horton@legitscript.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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color:
#444444;">I
was going to
reply to
Natalie's
email as well,
but Paul's
comments
capture my
thoughts, so:
<b>+1. </b></span></p>
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Horton<br>
President and
CEO,
LegitScript</span><span
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style="font-family:
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color: black;">On
Tue, May 30,
2017 at 12:57
PM, Paul
Keating <<a
href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">paul@law.es</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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style="font-family:
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color: black;">Thank
you for the
email. Im
copying the
list because i
see others
have replied
to your
comment.</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-family:
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'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">I
strenuously
object to the
concept. We
are discussing
THIN DATA ONLY
HERE. Unless
someone can
explain to me
why any of
this data set
has privacy
concerns this
is a
non-issue. I
would
certainly
appreciate
someone
explaining
what, if any,
privacy issues
are perceived
to be at issue
here.</span></p>
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style="font-family:
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color: black;">Moreover,
while you
suggest that
the idea
escapes the
need to
declare a
purpose, it
does nothing
but reinforce
a subjective
criteria based
system in
which the
declared
purpose is
used to
somehow limit
the data being
retrieved.</span></p>
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color: black;">If
i am missing
something
please let me
know. </span></p>
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Paul</span></p>
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Sent from my
iPad</span></p>
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On 30 May
2017, at
21:08,
nathalie
coupet via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
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Paul,</span></p>
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<p
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data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">In
the context of
thin data, in
view of the
opposition of
some to allow
unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of
proportionality
serves as an
over-arching
principle at
this
particular
phase in our
work in order
to protect
data from
abuse while
not
restricting
access. </span></p>
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data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">Thin
data must be
proportionate
to the query,
be useful for
that
particular
query. All and
any other thin
data foreign
to this query
should not be
shared. This
principle
potentially
avoids having
to resort to
'legitimate
purposes'
which cannot
be verified
for
unauthenticated
access. </span></p>
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color: black;">On
Tuesday, May
30, 2017 2:44
PM, "Gomes,
Chuck via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</span><span
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data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">Because
Nathalie was
the originator
and was unable
to speak on
the call, I
encourage her
to describe
the nature of
the issue on
this thread.</span><span
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<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.
org</a> [<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-
bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Paul
Keating<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday, May
30, 2017 2:17
PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Lisa Phifer
<<a
href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lisa@corecom.com</a>>; RDS PDP
WG <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL] Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span><span
style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
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data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">Im
sorry to have
missed the
call but had a
client
engagement.</span><span
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data-mce-style="font-family:
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color: black;"> </span><span
style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"
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data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">Can
someone
briefly
describe the
nature of the
issue?</span><span
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data-mce-style="font-family:
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color: black;">Thanks</span><span
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</span></b><span
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black;"
data-mce-style="font-size:
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moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@
icann.org</a>>
on behalf of
Lisa Phifer
<<a
href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lisa@corecom.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
May 30, 2017
at 7:52 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>RDS
PDP WG <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Principle on
Proportionality
for "Thin
Data"access</span><span
style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"
data-mce-style="font-family:
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data-mce-style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;
color: black;">All,
per today's
call action
item:<br>
<br>
<b>Action
Item: Nathalie
Coupet and any
other WG
members who
wish to do so
to propose to
the WG list a
new principle
on
proportionality
for "thin
data." All WG
members to
comment on
that proposed
principle in
advance of
next call.<br>
<br>
</b>we are
starting a new
thread here
which anyone
may reply to
if they wish
to propose (or
respond to) a
new principle
on
proportionality
for "thin
data" access.<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa</span><span
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