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    <p>I am not sure a provision in the RA is going to be sufficient for
      every case. In some cases a seperated agreement may be required.<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 31.05.2017 um 18:49 schrieb jonathan
      matkowsky:<br>
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cite="mid:CALsyHB=C=Dc3J8+T2HGZEfSGh+ZeB7SzpK5ywQDkGcxJHgATfg@mail.gmail.com">
      <div>I agree with Stephanie that the way to address the concerns
        are to make sure users have provided informed consent. The
        registration agreement should have a provision under applicable
        law. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div>On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 19:40 Stephanie Perrin &lt;<a
              href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
              moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
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              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think it
                    is a very good summary.  One issue which we do not
                    discuss very often is the fact that end users who
                    register a domain name do not understand very well
                    (if at all) what the implications for their privacy
                    are.  A requirement of most data protection law is
                    to provide transparency with respect to what happens
                    to personal data.  This job, in my view, has not
                    been tackled by ICANN in the required way.  So while
                    I agree with the summary, it raises the issue, for
                    those of us who do not understand what an SOA record
                    is, what thin data is, how the DNS operates, etc.
                    there is an obligation on ICANN, through its
                    contractual control of the registries and
                    registrars, to provide greater clarity about how
                    personal data is managed, and what the risks might
                    be for the individual.  Simply saying "</font></font>Let's
                remember we are talking about the public, open Internet
                here. Nobody has to participate that doesn't want to,
                just like if I don't want anyone to see my license plate
                number on the road, I don't have to drive a car either.
                "  <font size="+1">is not adequate.  (Licence
                  registries, by the way, have become private in most
                  jurisdictions because of the risk to registrants, so
                  the chances of being stalked by some nut with road
                  rage have mercifully decreased). </font></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="+1"> Stephanie Perrin<br>
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              <div class="m_-605475363330841737moz-cite-prefix">On
                2017-05-31 11:07, Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I
                      am open to disagreement, but it seems to me that
                      Jonathan provides a good summary and maybe even a
                      fair conclusion of the extensive discussion that
                      has occurred on this thread since Tuesday.  Rather
                      than continuing the extensive back and forth,
                      which in my assessment is mostly repeating things
                      that have already been said several times, I
                      request that anyone who disagrees with Jonathan’s
                      conclusions to identify what you disagree with and
                      provide your reasoning.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Chuck</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                      name="m_-605475363330841737__MailEndCompose"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></a></p>
                  <span></span>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
class="m_-605475363330841737moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                      [<a
                        class="m_-605475363330841737moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>jonathan matkowsky<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:52 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Dotzero <a
                        class="m_-605475363330841737moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;dotzero@gmail.com&gt;</a>;
                      Volker Greimann <a
                        class="m_-605475363330841737moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;vgreimann@key-systems.net&gt;</a><br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> RDS PDP WG <a
                        class="m_-605475363330841737moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org&gt;</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                      Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I think the discussion here
                      reflects confusion between what's available in DNS
                      based on the domain name alone, and Thin Whois
                      data. The fact of whether SOA records or A records
                      may contain PII  is a totally separate issue than
                      Thin Whois data elements.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Based on a domain name alone,
                      one can use it to query DNS for record elements
                      that may contain PII or when combined with other
                      data, can be used to obtain PII. But all of this
                      PII is in the public domain voluntarily by their
                      owners, and more importantly, is outside the
                      framework of discussion, which is limited to Whois
                      database--not DNS. They are simply not the same.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">So the fact that you can get
                      SOA records from the domain name alone begs the
                      question of whether the domain name needs to be
                      protected because when combined with other data
                      elements, can be used to obtain PII.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">But the domain names are
                      publicly available on the internet by virtue of
                      being in the zone files. So the fact you can
                      obtain the domain from thin Whois doesn't make it
                      any more available than it is from the zone files.
                      It is outside the framework of discussion.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The thin Whois database is not
                      what is making domain names available--so the SOA
                      records for the domain is not a good example, even
                      if someone put PII in that field--as that is an
                      issue of domain names being publicly available
                      together with DNS. Totally outside the framework
                      of discussion.</p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The creation date of a domain,
                      the NS records, when the domain was last updated,
                      and the registrar of record are simply not by any
                      stretch of the imagination arguably PII by virtue
                      of Whois. This is information that was voluntarily
                      made public by virtue of using the public Internet
                      which relies on DNS. </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Privacy enthusiasts can use
                      .Onion if they want to. But if they want to use
                      the open Internet, that means some basic data by
                      definition is publicly available in the DNS. If
                      they want to protect their privacy, then they need
                      to use common sense and not put information they
                      dont want to be made public into the public. </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The creation date is as a
                      matter of fact, used as one of several indicators
                      to show a domain engaged in malicious activity was
                      unlikely a victim of being compromised. It is a
                      critical piece of data but also not by any stretch
                      of the wildest imagination PII. </p>
                  </div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">The principle of
                      proportionality doesn't apply to thin data unless
                      you want to argue it applies to the very fact a
                      domain name record was created in the public
                      Internet. By creating the record, a user has
                      chosen to make that record's existence
                      public--regardless of whether they use privacy
                      protection or not. If I register my name and
                      birthday as a domain name, it is PII, but PII that
                      I chose to be made publicly available by virtue of
                      creating the domain and putting it into the zone.
                      Does that mean I am somehow entitled to have all
                      the RFCs re-written for me and for the public
                       Internet to be made private? Of course not. So
                      when people make things public voluntarily by
                      virtue of participating in society, the principles
                      of data protection apply differently. Let's
                      remember we are talking about the public, open
                      Internet here. Nobody has to participate that
                      doesn't want to, just like if I don't want anyone
                      to see my license plate number on the road, I
                      don't have to drive a car either. </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 31 May 2017 at
                          16:50 Dotzero &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dotzero@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Translation (per Google
                            translate) of what Volker posted:<br>
                            <br>
                            <span
                              class="m_-605475363330841737m-377313414510063557gmail-"><span
                                lang="EN">"On the basis of the ECJ
                                ruling, the factual feature" personal
                                data "of § 12 (1) and (2) TMG in
                                conjunction with § 3 (1) BDSG must be
                                interpreted in accordance with the
                                guidelines: a dynamic IP address
                                provided by a provider of online media
                                services In the case of access by a
                                person to a website, which is made
                                generally accessible by the provider,
                                constitutes a (protected) personal date
                                for the provider.</span></span><span
                              lang="EN"><br>
                              <br>
                              <span
                                class="m_-605475363330841737m-377313414510063557gmail-">The
                                IP address can only be stored as a
                                personal date under the prerequisites of
                                § 15 (1) TMG. This provision is to be
                                applied in accordance with the
                                provisions of Article 7 (f) of Directive
                                95/46 EC, as interpreted by the Court of
                                Justice, to the effect that a provider
                                of on-line media services may collect
                                personal data of a user without the
                                consent of the user of the services To
                                the extent that their collection and use
                                is necessary to ensure the general
                                functioning of the services. However,
                                there is a need to balance the interests
                                and the basic rights and freedoms of the
                                users. "</span></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 31, 2017 at
                              9:47 AM, Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                              wrote:</p>
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                                <p>Why, just this month the German
                                  Bundesgerichtshof confirmed this in a
                                  review of a decision of the state
                                  court Berlin ( Az. VI ZR 135/13):</p>
                                <p><a
href="http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&amp;Art=pm&amp;Datum=2017&amp;Sort=3&amp;nr=78289&amp;pos=0&amp;anz=74"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&amp;Art=pm&amp;Datum=2017&amp;Sort=3&amp;nr=78289&amp;pos=0&amp;anz=74</a></p>
                                <p>It followed the decision of the
                                  European Court from October last year:</p>
                                <p>C-582/14, NJW 2016, 3579</p>
                                <p>The German explanation:</p>
                                <p><i>"Auf der Grundlage des
                                    EuGH-Urteils ist das
                                    Tatbestandsmerkmal "personenbezogene
                                    Daten" des § 12 Abs. 1 und 2 TMG in
                                    Verbindung mit § 3 Abs. 1 BDSG
                                    richtlinienkonform auszulegen: Eine
                                    dynamische IP-Adresse, die von einem
                                    Anbieter von Online-Mediendiensten
                                    beim Zugriff einer Person auf eine
                                    Internetseite, die dieser Anbieter
                                    allgemein zugänglich macht,
                                    gespeichert wird, stellt für den
                                    Anbieter ein (geschütztes)
                                    personenbezogenes Datum dar. </i></p>
                                <p><i>Als personenbezogenes Datum darf
                                    die IP-Adresse nur unter den
                                    Voraussetzungen des § 15 Abs. 1 TMG
                                    gespeichert werden. Diese Vorschrift
                                    ist richtlinienkonform entsprechend
                                    Art. 7 Buchst. f der Richtlinie
                                    95/46 EG – in der Auslegung durch
                                    den EuGH – dahin anzuwenden, dass
                                    ein Anbieter von
                                    Online-Mediendiensten
                                    personenbezogene Daten eines Nutzers
                                    dieser Dienste ohne dessen
                                    Einwilligung auch über das Ende
                                    eines Nutzungsvorgangs hinaus dann
                                    erheben und verwenden darf, soweit
                                    ihre Erhebung und ihre Verwendung
                                    erforderlich sind, um die generelle
                                    Funktionsfähigkeit der Dienste zu
                                    gewährleisten. Dabei bedarf es
                                    allerdings einer Abwägung mit dem
                                    Interesse und den Grundrechten und
                                    -freiheiten der Nutzer."</i></p>
                                <p>Hope this helps.</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Am 31.05.2017
                                        um 15:38 schrieb Paul Keating:</p>
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                                          <p><span style="color:black">See:
                                              recent Europrean court
                                              decisions on IP addresses
                                              as PII.</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Can you
                                          please provide the citations? 
                                          I a-m not aware of any court
                                          decision issuingsuch a broad
                                          ruling. </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Paul <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Sent from my iPad</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                          On 31 May 2017, at 12:20,
                                          Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                                          wrote:</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote
                                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                        <div>
                                          <p>In some cases the ability
                                            to use data set A in
                                            combination with data set B
                                            to enable one to identify an
                                            individual turns data set A
                                            into PII. </p>
                                          <p>See: recent Europrean court
                                            decisions on IP addresses as
                                            PII.</p>
                                          <p>I am with you in viewing
                                            thin data as rather unlikely
                                            to be defined as PII, but
                                            depending on how this data
                                            is used it is not
                                            inconceivable that it may be
                                            found to contain PII
                                            depending on the use.
                                            Unlikely, but not
                                            impossible.</p>
                                          <p>Volker</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Am
                                              30.05.2017 um 23:40
                                              schrieb Paul Keating:</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote
                                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Im
                                                sorry but i don't see
                                                the logic here (or the
                                                legal constraint)</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Privacy
                                                laws protect personal
                                                data of INDIVIDUALS. 
                                                They do t protect
                                                non-personal data or
                                                data from
                                                non-individuals.</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Nothing
                                                on the list below is
                                                personal data.  And no e
                                                of the principles given
                                                by Natalie apply.</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                                fact that i could use
                                                the data to obtain other
                                                data is irrelevant.  I
                                                can use a car to rob a
                                                bank but that itself is
                                                not a reason to restrict
                                                access to automobiles.</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151AppleMailSignature">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Me
                                                thinks you are trying to
                                                create a scarcity for
                                                some reason.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Sent from my iPad</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                                On 30 May 2017, at
                                                23:22, Chris Pelling
                                                &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:chris@netearth.net"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">chris@netearth.net</a>&gt;
                                                wrote:</p>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote
                                              style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">ok - a
                                                        thought :</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thin data
                                                        includes
                                                        nameservers,
                                                        being able to <strong><u><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">mass</span></u></strong>
                                                        collect thin
                                                        data gaining NS
                                                        information then
                                                        allows you to do
                                                        a DIG of a SOA
                                                        record on the
                                                        DNS service to
                                                        gain the email
                                                        address of the
                                                        hostmaster : </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Some
                                                        examples
                                                        (radomly picked
                                                        from the list) 
                                                        :</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                                                          href="http://gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gmail.com</a> :</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">SOA     <a
href="http://ns1.google.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.google.com</a>.
                                                        <a
                                                          href="http://dns-admin.google.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> dns-admin.google.com</a>.
                                                        157458041 900
                                                        900 1800 60<br>
                                                        <a
                                                          href="http://netearthone.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">netearthone.com</a></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">SOA     <a
href="http://ns1.netearth.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.netearth.net</a>.
                                                        <a
                                                          href="http://root.netearthone.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> root.netearthone.com</a>. <a
                                                          href="tel:%28201%29%20609-0201"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">2016090201</a> 14400 3600 1209600
                                                        86400</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                                                          href="http://law.es"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">law.es</a></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">SOA     <a
href="http://ns1.eurodns.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ns1.eurodns.com</a>.
                                                        <a
                                                          href="http://hostmaster.eurodns.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> hostmaster.eurodns.com</a>. <a
href="tel:%28201%29%20606-1402" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">2016061402</a>
                                                        43200 7200
                                                        1209600 86400</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
                                                          href="http://riskiq.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">riskiq.net</a></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">SOA     <a
href="http://ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">ns-1754.awsdns-27.co.uk</a>.
                                                        <a
                                                          href="http://awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com</a>.
                                                        1 7200 900
                                                        1209600 86400</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Now as you
                                                        can see - those
                                                        above examples
                                                        allow you to get
                                                        (or build) an
                                                        email list. 
                                                        Most will
                                                        normally point
                                                        to the providers
                                                        service, but,
                                                        some that are
                                                        DIY'ing their
                                                        hosting, it
                                                        might not be.</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Kind
                                                        regards,<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Chris</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align:center" align="center"><span
                                                      style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                                                      <hr
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151zwchr"
                                                        size="3"
                                                        align="center"
                                                        width="100%"> </span></div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">"allison
                                                        nixon" &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                        <b>To: </b>"nathalie
                                                        coupet" &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nathaliecoupet@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                        <b>Cc: </b>"gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
                                                        &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                                        <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday,
                                                        30 May, 2017
                                                        21:52:32<br>
                                                        <b>Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for
                                                        "Thin        Data"access</span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">so can you
                                                          name one
                                                          specific
                                                          example of how
                                                          someone could
                                                          abuse thin
                                                          data?</span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On Tue, May
                                                          30, 2017 at
                                                          4:50 PM,
                                                          nathalie
                                                          coupet via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                                          6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Abuse</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222"> is
                                                          the improper
                                                          usage or
                                                          treatment of
                                                          an </span><span><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity" title="Entity"
                                                          target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b0080;background:white">entity</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">,
                                                          often to </span><span><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributive_justice"
                                                          title="Distributive
                                                          justice"
                                                          target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b0080;background:white">unfairly</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222"> or
                                                          improperly
                                                          gain benefit.
                                                          In our
                                                          context, abuse
                                                          is the
                                                          improper usage
                                                          of WHOIS/RDS
                                                          to unfairly or
                                                          improperly
                                                          gain access to
                                                          information or
                                                          to game the
                                                          system. </span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Here
                                                          are some of
                                                          the
                                                          overarching
                                                          principles
                                                          which should
                                                          guide us when
                                                          building RDS: </span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287437">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287894">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">DATA
                                                          LIFECYCLE    
                                                                       
                                                               PRIVACY
                                                          PRINCIPLE    
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                               
                                                          PROTECTION
                                                          MEASURE</span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287897">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Collection
                                                                       
                                                                 
                                                          Proportionality
                                                          and purpose
                                                          specification
                                                                       
                                                                Data
                                                          minimisation,
                                                          Data quality</span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287900">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Storage
                                                                       
                                                             
                                                          Accountability,
                                                          Security
                                                          measures,
                                                          Sensitive data
                                                                       
Confidentiality, Encryption, Pseudonomisation</span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287903">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Sharing
                                                          and processing
                                                          Lawfulness and
                                                          fairness,
                                                          Consent, Right
                                                          of access
                                                           Data access
                                                          control, Data
                                                          leakage
                                                          prevention</span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Deletion
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                            Openness,
                                                          Right to
                                                          erasure      
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                             
                                                           Retention,
                                                          Archival,
                                                          Erasure</span><span></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
id="m_-605475363330841737m_-377313414510063557m_-7982672186852212151m_-1108286820301507687yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1496151286812_287906">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">If
                                                          such
                                                          principles are
                                                          not respected,
                                                          ICANN will be
                                                          liable.
                                                          Consumers
                                                          don't need to
                                                          have all the
                                                          thin data when
                                                          making a
                                                          query. This
                                                          could protect
                                                          them and
                                                          enable them to
                                                          have access to
                                                          the RDS
                                                          without
                                                          raising much
                                                          opposition.  </span><span></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222">Now,
                                                          we could
                                                          discuss the
                                                          possibility
                                                          for broader
                                                          query types.
                                                          These
                                                          principles
                                                          would still
                                                          apply, but
                                                          would be
                                                          contextualized
                                                          in order to
                                                          take into
                                                          account new
                                                          sets of
                                                          parameters for
                                                          each broader
                                                          query. By
                                                          increasing
                                                          granularity as
                                                          much as
                                                          possible,
                                                          while applying
                                                          these
                                                          aformentioned
                                                          principles, we
                                                          just might
                                                          find a way to
                                                          accomodate
                                                          everyone.  </span><span></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span>Nathalie </span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                                                          Tuesday, May
                                                          30, 2017 4:00
                                                          PM, John
                                                          Horton &lt;<a
href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">john.horton@legitscript.com</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#444444">I
                                                          was going to
                                                          reply to
                                                          Natalie's
                                                          email as well,
                                                          but Paul's
                                                          comments
                                                          capture my
                                                          thoughts, so:
                                                          <b>+1. </b></span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#073763">John
                                                          Horton<br>
                                                          President and
                                                          CEO,
                                                          LegitScript</span><span
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"> </span></p>
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style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#444444">Follow</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">
                                                          </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Legit</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Script</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">:
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                                                          href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#cc0000">LinkedIn</span></a> 
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#6aa84f">Facebook</span></a> 
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#ff9900"><a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Google+</a></span><span
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style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">On
                                                          Tue, May 30,
                                                          2017 at 12:57
                                                          PM, Paul
                                                          Keating &lt;<a
href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">paul@law.es</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Natalie,</span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Thank
                                                          you for the
                                                          email.  Im
                                                          copying the
                                                          list because i
                                                          see others
                                                          have replied
                                                          to your
                                                          comment.</span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">I
                                                          strenuously
                                                          object to the
                                                          concept.  We
                                                          are discussing
                                                          THIN DATA ONLY
                                                          HERE.  Unless
                                                          someone can
                                                          explain to me
                                                          why any of
                                                          this data set
                                                          has privacy
                                                          concerns this
                                                          is a
                                                          non-issue.  I
                                                          would
                                                          certainly
                                                          appreciate
                                                          someone
                                                          explaining
                                                          what, if any,
                                                          privacy issues
                                                          are perceived
                                                          to be at issue
                                                          here.</span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Moreover,
                                                          while you
                                                          suggest that
                                                          the idea
                                                          escapes the
                                                          need to
                                                          declare a
                                                          purpose, it
                                                          does nothing
                                                          but reinforce
                                                          a subjective
                                                          criteria based
                                                          system in
                                                          which the
                                                          declared
                                                          purpose is
                                                          used to
                                                          somehow limit
                                                          the data being
                                                          retrieved.</span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">If
                                                          i am missing
                                                          something
                                                          please let me
                                                          know. </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><br>
                                                          Paul</span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><br>
                                                          Sent from my
                                                          iPad</span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"><br>
                                                          On 30 May
                                                          2017, at
                                                          21:08,
                                                          nathalie
                                                          coupet via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span>Hi Paul,</span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span>In the context of thin data, in view of
                                                          the opposition
                                                          of some to
                                                          allow
unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of
                                                          proportionality
                                                          serves as an
                                                          over-arching
                                                          principle at
                                                          this
                                                          particular
                                                          phase in our
                                                          work in order
                                                          to protect
                                                          data from
                                                          abuse while
                                                          not
                                                          restricting
                                                          access.   </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span>Thin data must be proportionate to the
                                                          query, be
                                                          useful for
                                                          that
                                                          particular
                                                          query. All and
                                                          any other thin
                                                          data foreign
                                                          to this query
                                                          should not be
                                                          shared. This
                                                          principle
                                                          potentially
                                                          avoids having
                                                          to resort to
                                                          'legitimate
                                                          purposes'
                                                          which cannot
                                                          be verified
                                                          for
                                                          unauthenticated
                                                          access.   </span></p>
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                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="background:white"><span> </span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On
                                                          Tuesday, May
                                                          30, 2017 2:44
                                                          PM, "Gomes,
                                                          Chuck via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</span><span
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"></span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span
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                                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Because
                                                          Nathalie was
                                                          the originator
                                                          and was unable
                                                          to speak on
                                                          the call, I
                                                          encourage her
                                                          to describe
                                                          the nature of
                                                          the issue on
                                                          this thread.</span><span
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"></span></p>
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style="background:white"><span
                                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">Chuck</span><span
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"></span></p>
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style="background:white"><a
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style="font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"></span></p>
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                                                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue;color:black"> <a
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann. </a></span></p>
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      <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">jonathan matkowsky, vp - ip
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