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<p>Even if there if no PII in thin data (and I am leaning to that
direction myself), if there really a need for all these fields to
be public for the purpose of the operationality of the internet? I
am thinking of the created, updated and expiration dates in
particular since those are the ones leading to the most abusive
use.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 31.05.2017 um 19:22 schrieb jonathan
matkowsky:<br>
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<div>Thin Whois data doesn't have PII - We were saying that for
registration DETAILS that can be queried from the existence of a
domain name (which are NOT in thin Whois data), the way to deal
with that is informed consent. The thin Whois data is
cross-referenced against the domain name that was created. The
domain itself exists. We very much can say that there is no PII
in thin Whois data for domain names. DNS queries and SOA records
are not part of this working group. And the fact you can use the
Whois PROTOCOL to query RIRs also has nothing whatsoever to do
with the Whois DATABASE, especially thin Whois. We can still be
privacy champions without turning everything into a privacy
concern, especially where none exists. The privacy issues to the
extent they do exist, are not within the subject matter at
issue. And therefore, there is simply no proportionality
principle that need be applied here.</div>
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<div>On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 20:10 Michael Peddemors <<a
href="mailto:michael@linuxmagic.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">michael@linuxmagic.com</a>>
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17-05-31 10:07 AM, allison nixon wrote:<br>
> the rest of it can't be. You can't put a DNS query
behind a EULA. We<br>
> can't pretend there are restrictions on this data.<br>
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We aren't discussing DNS or any other places that data is
available as<br>
part of this working group. Only the informed consent of
data held in<br>
whois thin data.<br>
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