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<p>If you can differentiate the use that a domain isgoing to be put
to at the time of registration with sufficient accuracy, you are
due for an an award ;-)</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.06.2017 um 22:15 schrieb Dotzero:<br>
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<div>The overwhelming majority of domains registered would
be considered for commercial purposes. The fact that a
small percentage of domains are registered by individuals
for personal use should not be the determining factor as
to what is appropriate for ICANN to do. In fact, many of
what people assert are personal domains have advertising
on them and would therefor be considered by almost any
jurisdiction to be engaged in a commercial activity. This
includes many (most?) parked domains.<br>
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Under these circumstances, having disclosure requirement in
registry/registrar agreements seems very appropriate and
reasonable. Adding in the fact that "private registration"
is an option reduces the scope of the issue even further.<br>
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This is starting to increasingly look like a case of throwing
the baby out with the bath water.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM,
Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">This clause
has not been acceptable in the past, even before
GDPR. I think it is worth pointing out that what is
in the ICANN agreements has been repeatedly pointed
out, notably by the Art 29 WG, but certainly by
others such as the IWGDPT, as violating DP law.
These documents I believe are all in our
repository. So please let us not assume that what
has been happening is ok, even if we sign contract
after contract with the same offending clauses in
them. Consent in most jurisdictions has to be some
variant of "free, enlightened, and informed". Noone
can be compelled to consent to a practice that is
disproportionate or fails the necessity test...An
ability to withdraw consent has to be available. I
won't go on and on but this clause obviously does
not pass this test.<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">In my
opinion, the longer ICANN tries to stymie the DPAs
and ignore necessary changes in privacy policy, the
greater the risk they run that a viral campaign will
be launched among ordinary users, to appeal to the
Courts. DPAs try to effect change through
dialogue. WHen dialogue fails, individuals have to
take cases to Court. We don't want that.</font></font></p>
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<div class="m_3900158585879485991moz-cite-prefix">On
2017-06-02 08:19, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I was just reviewing the changes
to the registry agreement again and I noticed a
section that has relevance here as well and that had
not been discussed here. <br>
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Apparently the definition of the purpose for personal
data collection as far as ICANN is concerned is the
job of the registry operators: <br>
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2.18 Personal Data. Registry Operator shall (i) notify
each ICANN-accredited registrar that is a party to the
Registry-Registrar Agreement for the TLD of the
purposes for which data about any identified or
identifiable natural person (“Personal Data”)
submitted to Registry Operator by such registrar is
collected and used under this Agreement or otherwise
and the intended recipients (or categories of
recipients) of such Personal Data, and (ii) require
such registrar to obtain the consent of each
registrant in the TLD for such collection and use of
Personal Data. Registry Operator shall take reasonable
steps to protect Personal Data collected from such
registrar from loss, misuse, unauthorized disclosure,
alteration or destruction. Registry Operator shall not
use or authorize the use of Personal Data in a way
that is incompatible with the notice provided to
registrars. <br>
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This does have some relevance to our current
discussion, so I thought I'd recklessly post it here!
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