<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Volker, can you please describe this main issue as you see it in more detail?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><i>"The main issue is that ICANN has no working process in place for a contracted party to show it has an issue with local laws that can be reasonably invoked before getting called on it by local authorities, e.g. being sued or fined. So we need the excemptions baked into the policy to be safe down the road."</i></span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jonathan Matkowsky</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Am 02.06.2017 um 18:17 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:<br>
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On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 07:00:23PM +0300, jonathan matkowsky wrote:<br>
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"3.7.2 Registrar shall abide by applicable laws and governmental<br>
regulations." Applicable laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.<br>
We should keep this in mind.<br>
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Yes. Also, I don't know why we have to have an opinion on what<br>
registrars or registries must do overall. What we need to do, as far<br>
as I can tell, is understand what the data is and what it is collected<br>
for, and then propose a policy that makes it _possible_ for registrars<br>
and registries to conform with their local laws. No?<br></blockquote></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The main issue is that ICANN has no working process in place for a contracted party to show it has an issue with local laws that can be reasonably invoked before getting called on it by local authorities, e.g. being sued or fined. So we need the excemptions baked into the policy to be safe down the road.</span><br>
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"Just deal with that on your own later!" is not an acceptable result.<br>
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As a non-European leader recently put it: "No deal is better than a bad deal!"<br>
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Best,<br>
Volker<br>
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