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<p class="MsoNormal">I think a response to the next to last bullet point would be useful: “<i>Should a revision of the questions asked of the data protection experts be done prior to sending to the independent experts?</i>”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As some may recall, it was suggested in a recent WG meeting that the questions should be revised. The Leadership Team evaluated this suggestion and decided to not revise the questions at the start. Here is some reasons for making that
decision:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5">The request from WG members to obtain input from independent experts related specifically to the questions that we asked the European Data Protection experts so, if we want a fair
comparison, the independent expert(s) should be given the same questions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5">The questions we asked the European Data Protection experts were developed with fairly extensive WG input using a small group and then obtaining WG approval of the small group’s recommended
questions; using the already prepared questions provides a timely way to incorporate WG input.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5">We recognize that the original questions are not perfect and may need clarification during the engagement with the expert(s) but we believe that that can happen during the engagement
with the expert(s).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5">In addition to the reason cited in item 1 above, taking time to have the WG revise the questions would likely take several weeks and that would prevent us from using FY17 funds and
delay getting the independent opinions further.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chuck<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 05, 2017 7:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating <paul@law.es>; lisa@corecom.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda for RDS PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday 6 June<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul, all, please note the following (from the notes from the WG’s previous meeting):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>a) Legal review<o:p></o:p></i></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>Staff has been reaching out to experts to perform an independent analysis of the WG’s previously-developed questions on data protection and privacy law application to RDS<o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>Information requested included expected costs and timeframe for delivery of answers to questions. Staff has already received some information, and is awaiting more information, to be shared
with the leadership team, in order to select and engage experts to conduct this analysis<o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>There is advantage in using FY17 funds for this project, as some funds are already available, and allows for further follow-up or additional analysis using FY18 funds<o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>Need to decide quickly to take advantage of FY17 funds, and also to provide expert responses in advance of the WG’s target for starting its first initial report for Phase 1<o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>Should a revision of the questions asked of the data protection experts be done prior to sending to the independent experts?<o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><i>In the short-term, the leadership team will coordinate bringing the experts on board, and will communicate updates to the WG<o:p></o:p></i></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, June 5, 2017 at 16:16<br>
<b>To: </b>Lisa Phifer <<a href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com">lisa@corecom.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda for RDS PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday 6 June</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chuck and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We seem to be getting bogged down on issues surrounding the breadth and application of privacy laws. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The major issue I see at this point is an overall lack of shared knowledge regarding what laws are at issue and the breadth and application of those laws. I'm not intending any insult. I am concerned that this lack of more widely shared
foundational knowledge anchored in the law will continue to cause delays and frustration AND may render some of our work erroneous requiring revision. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to reiterate my request that we attempt to formally engage counsel for the e.g. Who can provide meaningful legal advice.<br>
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Sincerely, <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jun 5, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Lisa Phifer <<a href="mailto:lisa@corecom.com">lisa@corecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The next GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group teleconference will take place on Tuesday 6 June at 16:00 UTC.
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Below please find the proposed agenda for this meeting, along with links to meeting materials, which can be found on the meeting page:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/IsPRAw">https://community.icann.org/x/IsPRAw</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Lisa<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><u><span style="color:#333333">Proposed Agenda for RDS PDP WG Meeting - Tuesday 6 June</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="color:#333333;background:white">1) Roll Call/SOI Updates</span><span style="color:#333333"><br>
<span style="background:white">2) Complete deliberation on:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What steps should be taken to control "thin data" access?</span></em></span><br>
<span style="background:white"> a) Review poll results: <strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64078626/AnnotatedResults-Poll-from-30MayCall-v2.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1496683026000&api=v2"><span style="color:#3B73AF">AnnotatedResults-Poll-from-30MayCall-v2.pdf</span></a></span></strong><br>
b) Consider possible principle on proportionality</span><br>
<span style="background:white"> c) Action item proposal from Rod Rasmussen and Vaibhav Aggarwal</span>
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<span style="background:white">3) Resume deliberation on Data Elements for "thin data" only</span><br>
<span style="background:white"> See <strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64078626/RDSPDP-Handout-For6JuneCall.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1496685381431&api=v2"><span style="color:#3B73AF">RDSPDP-Handout-For6JuneCall.pdf</span></a></span></strong></span><br>
<span style="background:white">4) Brief updates on:</span><br>
<span style="background:white"> a) Legal analysis</span><br>
<span style="background:white"> b) ICANN59 plans: 26 June<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="https://schedule.icann.org/"><span style="color:#3B73AF;background:white">Cross-Community session</span></a><span style="color:#333333;background:white">,
28 June<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/lATfAw"><span style="color:#3B73AF;background:white">WG F2F session</span></a><span style="color:#333333"><br>
<span style="background:white">5) Confirm action items and proposed decision points</span><br>
<span style="background:white">6) Confirm next meeting date: 13 June 2017 at 16:00 UTC</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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