<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>This is an excellent set of questions. We have a number of registrars on the list that can respond clearly and directly.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 14 Jun 2017, at 23:09, allison nixon <<a href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Alright. I want to discuss the customer education process, because it does seem to underlie a point of misunderstanding and I want to understand better:<div><br></div><div>-Are customers notified that WHOIS data is made public when they buy domains?</div><div>-Is it clearly marked that their billing data can be different from their WHOIS data?</div><div>-Is the customer given a clear privacy option?</div><div>-Are customers frequently upset about WHOIS after the fact, to the point of complaining? Are there numbers on this?</div><div>-If customers are frequently confused or upset about WHOIS after-the-fact, does this indicate a failure of customer education at the start of the process?</div><div><br></div><div>and perhaps other questions as the answers are given. </div><div><br></div><div>I think a main point of misunderstanding between sides here is that one side considers this data to be public and intended to be public from the outset, and the other side doesn't. But I have zero visibility into what the average domain purchasing customer complains about. If it's driving some of the push to change things, I'd like to better understand that and I'd like some data, and I think it would be good for the group to understand too.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Feel free to suggest it Allison. We will consider it in light of our approved work plan.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:08 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List topics for this week<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks. I'd like to submit in writing a discussion topic for next meeting. My dayjob duties regularly intersect with the scheduled calls and this isn't avoidable for me, despite being an active member on the list.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List topics for this week</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">how are the discussion topics chosen? on the call? i can't make the calls due to work.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of the things we forgot to do at the end of our agenda yesterday was to identify the list discussion topics that everyone is asked to focus on this week. Fortunately as a result
of the discussion in the meeting and the questions in the poll, it appears that most everyone naturally focused on the appropriate topics which include the questions in the poll as well as the tentative conclusions that were reached in the meeting. Here is
a summary of the focus topics for this week:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN">The WG agreed to adopt the term "minimum public data set" to refer to the set of data elements deliberated thus far - that is, the list of fields that will always be public no matter the gTLD; short form focus topic = ‘minimum public data set’.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">
The WG agreed to add DNSSEC info to the ‘minimum public data set’; short form focus topic = ‘DNSSEC Info’.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">
The WG agreed that the expiration date should not be removed from the "Minimum Public Data Set"; short form of focus topic = ‘Expiration Date’.<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Purposes of minimum public data set elements identified to date: <u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Domain name<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">
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Ok to note dependency on another topic and state assumptions made, but keep focus on-topic.<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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