<div dir="ltr"><div>I thought one of the questions for this group is whether whois is sufficient or whether there needs to be a replacement. Let's not put the cart before the horse.<br><br></div>Michael Hammer<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>To open the discussion topic of this week, I suggest to remove
the Whois server from the list of public details merely for the
fact that whois and registrar whois servers will no longer exist
once RDS comes into play. See also 2013 RAA RDDS Spec, Art. 1:</p>
<p>"<b><i>Until </i></b><b><i><abbr title="Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers">ICANN</abbr></i></b><b><i>
requires a different protocol, Registrar will operate a </i></b><b><i><abbr title="WHOIS (pronounced "who is"; not an
acronym)">WHOIS</abbr></i></b><i><b> service</b>
available via port 43 in accordance with </i><i><abbr title="Request for Comments">RFC</abbr></i><i> 3912,
and a web-based Directory Service providing free public
query-based access to at least the elements set forth in Section
3.3.1.1 through 3.3.1.8 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement
in the format set forth in Section 1.4 of this Specification.</i>"</p>
<p>When we are done, RDS will be that different protocol. If not our
work was for naught anyway.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="m_8780093858437693597moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.06.2017 um 16:09 schrieb Gomes,
Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of the things we forgot to do at the
end of our agenda yesterday was to identify the list
discussion topics that everyone is asked to focus on this
week. Fortunately as a result of the discussion in the
meeting and the questions in the poll, it appears that most
everyone naturally focused on the appropriate topics which
include the questions in the poll as well as the tentative
conclusions that were reached in the meeting. Here is a
summary of the focus topics for this week:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u>New agreements reached and accepted as
tentative conclusions</u><u></u><u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><span lang="EN">The WG agreed to adopt the term "minimum public
data set" to refer to the set of data elements deliberated
thus far - that is, the list of fields that will always be
public no matter the gTLD; short form focus topic =
‘minimum public data set’.</span><u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">The WG
agreed to add DNSSEC info to the ‘minimum public data set’;
short form focus topic = ‘DNSSEC Info’.<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">The WG
agreed that the expiration date should not be removed from
the "Minimum Public Data Set"; short form of focus topic =
‘Expiration Date’.<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><u></u><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span><u></u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u>From the poll</u><u></u><u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Purposes of
minimum public data set elements identified to date:<u></u><u></u>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Domain
name<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Registrar
name<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Registrar
ID (Registrar IANA ID)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Whois
Server & Referral URL<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Name
Servers<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Statuses<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:normal" lang="EN">Updated Date, Creation Date, Expiration
Date</span></strong><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:normal"><u></u><u></u></span></strong></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">(These topics may
be discussed as a whole or as individual discussion topics.)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">According to our recently instituted
procedures, please limit list discussions to the above topics
this week. As a reminder, the three rules that are
particularly applicable are:<u></u><u></u></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoNoSpacing">Discussion topics must be narrowly defined.<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoNoSpacing">Responses must focus on the narrowly defined
topics.<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="m_8780093858437693597MsoNoSpacing">Ok to note dependency on another topic and
state assumptions made, but keep focus on-topic.<u></u><u></u></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your cooperation.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chuck<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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