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Great post Rod. Thanks for reminding us why we of why and how this
process can work. I too have had the (sometimes dubious) pleasure
of initiating one of these PDP processes and seeing it to fruition,
sometimes despite long odds. Hopefully this one will end as well we the
CZDS one.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 19/06/2017 01:10 AM, Rod Rasmussen wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Greg Aaron, Jim Galvin, and I
were all members of this SSAC work party and would be happy to elaborate
further on any questions folks in this group have on this
report. Note that we were looking at the issues we raised on
this report as much more a comment on the implementation of the original
policy work and where things were falling short rather than as something
with any “new” policy implications. <br><br>
As one of the co-chairs of the GNSO WP that proposed the CZDS (and
actually probably the guy you can blame for kicking off the whole thing
to begin with, for good or ill) it was very gratifying to see totally
newly crafted policy based on scaling existing practices to the new
realities of the gTLD expansion embodied in a well-defined and
operational system that made existing practices and policy a lot more
understandable, scalable, and efficient come into being. We have
had some growing pains, but all-in-all, the system that was implemented
reflects most of the ideas we put forward and does a pretty darn good
job. Yes, there are areas for improvement which this advisory gets
into, but the core system itself is delivering exactly what was
intended. <br><br>
The fact that we got this done remains one of my core inspirations in the
entire ICANN process. I find it invigorating that ICANN provides a
forum where someone in the community with a "good idea” on policy
can bring it forward, explain it to others to get them on board, and then
with work with those folks to create a movement, a PDP, and eventually an
actual policy to see that idea come to fruition for the global
Internet. Without a dime spent on lobbying or other
“traditional” policy movers to boot mind you. Where else in the
world can you find that? Pretty darn cool, I say! That’s
why I keep coming to these meetings, spending countless hours on calls,
and volunteering in many forums to try to get thing “done right”
despite what seems like intractable odds at times.<br><br>
I can only hope that at the end of the day, we end up putting forward a
policy proposal along similar lines that we can all be proud of pointing
to in the future saying, “yeah, I helped put that together” where all
parties are served well in the end. I share these thoughts in the
hopes of getting our work party a bit more aligned on the end goal here
that we’ve been chartered with. Seems we have been having
discussions of “camps”, “sides”, and far too many posts where
folks are taking shots at each others' ideas or working towards a
specifically narrow agenda. I would like us all to remember that
we’re charged with creating a system for providing registration
information that protects the interests of ALL stakeholders in making the
Internet work, from those who actually register domains to those who
provide the services to make that happen, to those who ensure the system
isn’t abused to the detriment of all which will, in the end, seriously
jeopardize the future of that system if it isn’t held to account
properly.<br><br>
Best wishes to all this week - I look forward to seeing many of you in
JNB next week!<br><br>
Cheers,<br><br>
Rod<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On Jun 18, 2017, at 5:24 PM,
John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
<<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>
I would agree bulk access (i.e. Entire zone file) should be treated
different than ad hoc queries. <br><br>
--<br>
John Bambenek<br><br>
On Jun 18, 2017, at 19:12, Stephanie Perrin
<<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">
stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=1>It is an
interesting report. I note that access can be denied if an
applicant fails to meet credential requirements. I did not see a
sample request/agreement/credential, but that would be interesting for
our purposes...later on in our process.<br>
</font><br>
<font size=1>Stephanie Perrin</font><br><br>
On 2017-06-18 19:27, Carlton Samuels wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">You might find this SSAC
Advisory of interest, if only as a lesson demonstrqtingto an arrangement
where users are admitted to accessing of [zone] file data.<br><br>
Coming now on 18 years, ICANN has obliged gTLD registries to provide for
free, copies of their zone files to interested parties. This posture is
predicated on the acceptance that "<i>...the DNS is public
infrastructure, ICANN accredits gTLD registry operators, and zone files
are essential for a variety of legitimate purposes that are in the public
interest." <br><br>
</i>Referencing recent discussions on the list, you might also wish to
check out the zone file dataset.<br><br>
In the SSAC's view, <i>'Policy and process difficulties prevent
subscribers from gaining and then maintaining reliable access to zone
files.'</i> They then handily outlined these policy and process
differences as well as clearly state their recommendations for
remediation.<br><br>
-Carlton<br><br>
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This Report is attached and can also be found on the
<a href="https://www.icann.org/groups/ssac/documents">SSAC Reports</a>
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