<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#20124d">I agree with @Volker about Consent - as long you have data and going to access online services in the domain space then there is need for consent. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:#20124d">The registrant and registrar are linked by policy as there is no registrant who can handle the process without the registrar - the registrar has the right to handle the data and keep it safe. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Chuck Gomes Consulting <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank">consult@cgomes.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_3707066322540176247WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Thanks for getting discussion started Volker.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_3707066322540176247__MailEndCompose"><span style="color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p><span></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List discussion topics<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>I think consent is one of the most basic problems for the non-registrant contacts, e.g. tech, admin (and billing in some cases). As the registrar is (at best) only interacting directly with the registrant, and the other contacts are not subject to any agreement and/or policy directly, we had to trust that the registrant (or his agent) had obtained the appropriate content from the entities listed for those roles. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Clearly, this is no longer sufficient under the new data privacy regime where consent bust be explicitly given by the data subject. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Abuse would be a new role to consider, however the same basically applies. <u></u><u></u></p><p>I think the descriptions from the EWG are good and sufficient.<u></u><u></u></p><p>Best,<u></u><u></u></p><p>Volker<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Am 26.07.2017 um 22:21 schrieb Chuck Gomes Consulting:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">In addition to discussion about the topics in this week’s poll, members are encouraged to also discuss the following on the WG list between now and our meeting next week:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in">For admin, technical, abuse, and privacy/proxy roles, all WG members encouraged to discuss on-list the following questions: <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u>Are these roles needed? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u>How do they differ from each other? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u>How might they differ from the registrant? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The following description of these roles, excerpted from the EWG report, may be helpful in kicking off discussion:<br><br><img width="845" height="586" style="width:8.802in;height:6.1041in" id="m_3707066322540176247_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D3069F.13D1F550" alt="Emacs!"> <br><br>Note: The above contact types (roles) are being discussed first because they received broad support in our 28 June call poll. The EWG Report defined two additional contact types (roles) which received less support in our 28 June call poll; to enable focus on possible common ground, additional contact types will be discussed separately.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Chuck<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________<u></u><u></u></pre><pre>gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><u></u><u></u></pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><pre>-- <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><u></u> <u></u></pre><pre>Volker A. 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