<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I don't see how the names community's rds has anything at all to do with the numbers community's rds. &nbsp;Some of the RIRs have already moved on and made policy changes (and embraced RDAP, which was their idea in the first place). There is no reason to make this harder than it already is, and what the numbers community does is in any case not the names community's business.&nbsp;</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Best regards,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">A<br><br>--&nbsp;<div>Andrew Sullivan&nbsp;</div><div>Please excuse my clumbsy thums.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2017, at 10:31, Kris Seeburn &lt;<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Hi dick&nbsp;</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process.&nbsp;</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I personally feel when we are looking at the rdp a revamped Whois the RIRs are also concerned.&nbsp;</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">That's my two cents but I feel we can make a better deal in one go than having too many committees.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Kris</div><div><br>On 26 Jul 2017, at 17:01, Richard Leaning &lt;<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net">rleaning@ripe.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Hi Kris,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Am part of this working group and also work for an RIR. If the WG feel the need to explore this more then am helping to help.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Dick<br><br>Richard Leaning<div>External Relations</div><div>RIPE NCC</div></div><div><br>On 25 Jul 2017, at 05:38, Kris Seeburn &lt;<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Hi Amr</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Perhaps we can drop same questions to the nro or aso. The Whois is also revealing. I know it may be outside a bit of scope but if you do a Whois not for domain but company name or individual names you could mine that for ip and emails.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I would believe some of these questions pertain to them also. Just a suggestion.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Kris</div><div><br>On 25 Jul 2017, at 01:48, Amr Elsadr &lt;<a href="mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org">amr.elsadr@icann.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi again, with apologies. This time, with the file attached.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Amr<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Amr Elsadr &lt;<a href="mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org">amr.elsadr@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, July 24, 2017 at 9:12 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Working Group Members,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Attached is a preliminary compilation of the responses received to-date from ccTLD registry operators, fashioned after public comment review tools used by GNSO WGs. You will also find the file posted on the WG wiki here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/rVjwAw">https://community.icann.org/x/rVjwAw</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So far, we have only received responses from 3 ccTLDs:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">.ME Registry<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">IE Domain Registry (IEDR)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">Canadian Internet Registration Authority<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The WG Leadership Team and staff are working together to follow-up with ccTLDs who have been contacted, but have not yet responded. The WG will be notified as additional responses are received.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Amr<o:p></o:p></p>
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