<div><div dir="auto">Maybe it means they have a GDPR/privacy law issue as well.... However, that doesn&#39;t really help us directly.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It would be interesting to know if they have contemplated it yet.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:37 PM Andrew Sullivan &lt;<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Sure.  And if I search in the land registry I get my own name and address.  What does that have to do with this WG?</div></div><div dir="auto"><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature">A</div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature"><br>-- <div>Andrew Sullivan </div><div>Please excuse my clumbsy thums. </div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br>On Jul 29, 2017, at 15:21, Kris Seeburn &lt;<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Have a look at this little search by name and that is not an advanced search. If i do all you would find more than that.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:   ORG-ME2-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-name:       Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-type:       ASSOCIATE-MEMBER</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27128075324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=mje-afrinic" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">mje-afrinic</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20mje-afrinic" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> mje-afrinic</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:         AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         ELKINS Mark James</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        EMJ1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        SOUTH AFRICA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        N/A</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:   ORG-PS1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-name:       Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-type:       EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P.O. Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27.826010496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27.128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:         AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:   ORG-PS1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-name:       Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-type:       EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P.O. Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27.826010496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27.128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:         AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>mntner</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:         POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">descr:          Posix Mantainer</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">auth:           MD5-PW $1$aXAEScl7$YRQFpDH6e77GRoi3Idtm50</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Alistair Pritchard</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 72 262 6233</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        AEP-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:   ORG-GKL1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-name:       Google Kenya Limited</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-type:       EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +1 650 253 4100</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +1 650 253 4000</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">MA19-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> MA19-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        google_kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:         AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Michael Axelrod</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        MA19-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +1 650 253 4100</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px"><span style="font-kerning:none"></span><br></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>inetnum</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        196.1.4.0 - 196.1.4.255</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">netname:        KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">descr:          .KE ccTLD Registry</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">descr:          Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">status:         ASSIGNED PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-lower:      <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">KE-NIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">parent:         196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>inet6num</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:       2001:43f8:0010::/48</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">netname:        KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">descr:          KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org:            ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AM17-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">AM17-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20SE1-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> SE1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">status:         ASSIGNED PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-lower:      <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">KE-NIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">parent:         2001:4200::/23</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254733790073</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none"><b>organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none">:   ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-name:       Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">org-type:       EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">country:        KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        CCK Complex, Waiyaki Way, Opp. Kianda Sch.</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P. O. Box 1461</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi - Kenya 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254204450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">fax-no:         +254204450087</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">admin-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)">KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">tech-c:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-ref:        KE-NIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:         AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Administrative Manager</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        1461 - 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254 20 4450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        AM17-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254733790073</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">mnt-by:        <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)"> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Paul Museeh John</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Technical Manager</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254725035201</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254 20 4450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none"><b>person</b>:         Systems Engineer</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        1461 - 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">address:        Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">phone:          +254 204450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none">:        SE1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-kerning:none">source:         AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div></div><div><span style="font-kerning:none"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight &lt;<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div class="m_6874578905357200542WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica-Light;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kris<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain circumstances.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">IP addresses and domains are not the same.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published is completely different.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><br>Michele<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">--<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Mr Michele Neylon<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Blacknight Solutions<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hosting, Colocation &amp; Domains<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Personal blog:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Some thoughts:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">-------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span>From:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span>Kris Seeburn &lt;<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Date:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02<br><b>To:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michele Neylon &lt;<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning &lt;<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" target="_blank">rleaning@ripe.net</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators&#39; to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs you type name of person or company you can have all the details and allocations etc.,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as well as The Whois as a domain name. <br><br>Kris<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></p>On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight &lt;<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u><p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite"><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kris</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I don’t understand your rationale here at all.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is germane?</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Regards</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Michele</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">--</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Mr Michele Neylon</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Blacknight Solutions</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hosting, Colocation &amp; Domains</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Personal blog:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://michele.blog/</a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Some thoughts:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://ceo.hosting/</a></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">-------------------------------</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span>From:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span>&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Kris Seeburn &lt;<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Date:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31<br><b>To:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning &lt;<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">rleaning@ripe.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>&quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators&#39; to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi dick <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It&#39;s food for thought but I think it&#39;s worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I personally feel when w</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div>