<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Chuck,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I pretty much agree on this but was just pointing out that they do come into the equation at some point and what we want to ensure does not get overlooked.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kris</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 30, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Chuck Gomes Consulting <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" class="">consult@cgomes.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kris,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for pointing out the privacy issues that RIRs have that may be like ones we have in the naming community. As you point out below, the issue of privacy that may confront RIRs “has not been looked at by all RIRs” so they may not be able to help us in our work much at this stage. To the extent that you see any activity there in the future that may benefit our work in the RDS PDP WG, please let us know. In the meantime, I don’t think it makes sense to reach out to RIRs at this time.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Chuc<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a name="_MailEndCompose" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></a></div><span class=""></span><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Kris Seeburn<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, July 29, 2017 11:55 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Greg,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You’ve actually pinned my issue down.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As much details or non details we do on the Naming side the same applies to RIRs. I will take an example. As much as we may want to ensure some level of privacy when we get to the bridge. The issue is that it is also as easier to go find the nested information with IP etc., in more details in an RIR whois. The details you can find is more than you can only see in the ICANN registry. So however much we decide to take into consideration the fields and objects we need for validity and the privacy. With a bit of intelligence one would situate all other details more than easily out of a DNS routing and IP address to get the details that can be taken and abused not only from the naming but easily pitched out from any RIR. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">What i am trying to say is that accuracy which is protected is better than a fully open database to tie the details together. I usually check on both ends to see accuracy of details at times. Whilst i might be doing in good intentions. The reality is that you can pull even more details from the RIR once you identified what you need from the ICANN registry. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am looking at it when i train cybersecurity i do show people how to identify and assure yourself that the information is close to correct. Whilst one may say RIR Whois may not reveal information but the reality it is very open as well as the ICANN one and even more.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">So GDPR/Privacy is still the issue as the Whois in an RIR can easily pin down what we want to protect here. Works both ways. Am looking at an alignment that protects the privacy end to end and you do naming and the DNS throws you to RIR and you still can get everything you want from the RIR whois. Then what we are doing gets loose ended on the other side.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">You may not do it, but anyone with idea of abuse or even other will get it easily and openly even more on the RIR whois. I have suggested RIR as well because the database is open and privacy issues from that perspective has not been looked at by all RIRs. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Land Registy is fine but even that is being moved to blockchain in certain countries. I just wanted a pragmatic way of protecting the data and information that ties the details that may be represented once the rds is up and if the other end is not tied as well then the work becomes useless from my perspective. I would want RIRs to go anf work towards same privacy rules we are doing. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I saw RIPE working in that direction because of GDPR but we need to tie the whole lose ends. Thats my take. People may agree or not but i wanted to make my point. Naming is just one slight art of the whole picture. Two bits work together naming ties to the DNS and the IPs but if all information is readily revealed on the other end. Then what we end up with naming and all privacy is very opened on the other end. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">When i look at the ewg work i see some logic. There is a need for accuracy to catch abusers as well as ensuring the privacy which some member of the wg want. WHich is more than fair and good. Me i would want mechanism for public info protection and law. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I am not forcing anyone to go my way but having been and i teach warfare and these are information we certainly use to to do DDOS etc., and getting addresses etc.,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The rest is the group’s decision. I will just not retake it. I will go with the majority thinking. But if later then this become an issue we overlooked then i would have raised it.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kris<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jul 29, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Maybe it means they have a GDPR/privacy law issue as well.... However, that doesn't really help us directly.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It would be interesting to know if they have contemplated it yet.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:37 PM Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sure. And if I search in the land registry I get my own name and address. What does that have to do with this WG?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">A<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">-- <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Andrew Sullivan <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please excuse my clumbsy thums. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br class="">On Jul 29, 2017, at 15:21, Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Have a look at this little search by name and that is not an advanced search. If i do all you would find more than that.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">organisation</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ORG-ME2-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-name: Mark Elkins<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-type: ASSOCIATE-MEMBER<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: ZA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27128070590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27128075324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=mje-afrinic" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">mje-afrinic</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20mje-afrinic" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mje-afrinic</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ELKINS Mark James<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: EMJ1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: SOUTH AFRICA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: N/A<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: South Africa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27128070590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Mark Elkins<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Gauteng<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: South Africa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">organisation</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-type: EU-PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: ZA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P.O. Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27.826010496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27.128070590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Mark Elkins<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Gauteng<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: South Africa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Mark Elkins<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Gauteng<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: South Africa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">organisation</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-type: EU-PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: ZA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P.O. Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27.826010496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27.128070590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mntner</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: POSIX-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">descr: Posix Mantainer<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MJE-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AEP-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">auth: MD5-PW $1$aXAEScl7$YRQFpDH6e77GRoi3Idtm50<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Alistair Pritchard<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Gauteng<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: ZA<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 72 262 6233<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: AEP-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Mark Elkins<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 73892<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Gauteng<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: South Africa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>POSIX-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">organisation</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ORG-GKL1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-name: Google Kenya Limited<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-type: EU-PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4100<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4000<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">MA19-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MA19-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: google_kenya<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Michael Axelrod<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: MA19-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Kenya<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4100<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">inetnum</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: 196.1.4.0 - 196.1.4.255<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">netname: KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">descr: .KE ccTLD Registry<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">descr: Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">status: ASSIGNED PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-lower: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">KE-NIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">parent: 196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">inet6num</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: 2001:43f8:0010::/48<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">netname: KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">descr: KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AM17-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">AM17-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20SE1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SE1-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">status: ASSIGNED PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-lower: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">KE-NIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">parent: 2001:4200::/23<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: KNIC1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi - KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Kenya<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254204450058<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254733790073<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">organisation</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-name: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">org-type: EU-PI<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">country: KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: CCK Complex, Waiyaki Way, Opp. Kianda Sch.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P. O. Box 1461<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi - Kenya 00606<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254204450057<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254204450058<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">fax-no: +254204450087<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">admin-c: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class="">KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-ref: KE-NIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Administrative Manager<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: 1461 - 00606<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254 20 4450057<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: AM17-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: KNIC1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi - KE<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Kenya<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254204450058<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254733790073<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(228, 112, 30);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Paul Museeh John<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: PMJ1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Technical Manager<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: KENIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Kenya<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254725035201<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254 20 4450058<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">person</span></b><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: Systems Engineer<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: 1461 - 00606<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">address: Nairobi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">phone: +254 204450057<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">nic-hdl</span></u><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">: SE1-AFRINIC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-family: Courier;" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Kris<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain circumstances.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">IP addresses and domains are not the same.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published is completely different.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Regards<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><br class="">Michele<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">--<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Mr Michele Neylon<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Blacknight Solutions<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://blacknight.blog/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Personal blog:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://michele.blog/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Some thoughts:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">-------------------------------<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning <<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rleaning@ripe.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs you type name of person or company you can have all the details and allocations etc.,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as well as The Whois as a domain name. <br class=""><br class="">Kris<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica-Light, serif;" class="">On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">michele@blacknight.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica-Light, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Kris<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">I don’t understand your rationale here at all.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is germane?<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Regards<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Michele<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">--<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Mr Michele Neylon<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Blacknight Solutions<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://blacknight.blog/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Personal blog:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://michele.blog/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Some thoughts:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">-------------------------------<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class="">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>> on behalf of Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning <<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">rleaning@ripe.net</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="m6874578905357200542apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi dick <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I personally feel when w<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">Kris Seeburn<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="" class=""><a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in; outline: 0px; display: table-cell;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 14.4pt; vertical-align: top; outline: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit;"><a name="webProfileURL" class=""></a><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/" title="View public profile" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: inherit, serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in; text-decoration: none;" class="">www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/</span></span></a></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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