<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Greg,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You’ve actually pinned my issue down.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As much details or non details we do on the Naming side the same applies to RIRs. I will take an example. As much as we may want to ensure some level of privacy when we get to the bridge. The issue is that it is also as easier to go find the nested information with IP etc., in more details in an RIR whois. The details you can find is more than you can only see in the ICANN registry. So however much we decide to take into consideration the fields and objects we need for validity and the privacy. With a bit of intelligence one would situate all other details more than easily out of a DNS routing and IP address to get the details that can be taken and abused not only from the naming but easily pitched out from any RIR. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What i am trying to say is that accuracy which is protected is better than a fully open database to tie the details together. I usually check on both ends to see accuracy of details at times. Whilst i might be doing in good intentions. The reality is that you can pull even more details from the RIR once you identified what you need from the ICANN registry. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am looking at it when i train cybersecurity i do show people how to identify and assure yourself that the information is close to correct. Whilst one may say RIR Whois may not reveal information but the reality it is very open as well as the ICANN one and even more.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So GDPR/Privacy is still the issue as the Whois in an RIR can easily pin down what we want to protect here. Works both ways. Am looking at an alignment that protects the privacy end to end and you do naming and the DNS throws you to RIR and you still can get everything you want from the RIR whois. Then what we are doing gets loose ended on the other side.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You may not do it, but anyone with idea of abuse or even other will get it easily and openly even more on the RIR whois. I have suggested RIR as well because the database is open and privacy issues from that perspective has not been looked at by all RIRs. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Land Registy is fine but even that is being moved to blockchain in certain countries. I just wanted a pragmatic way of protecting the data and information that ties the details that may be represented once the rds is up and if the other end is not tied as well then the work becomes useless from my perspective. I would want RIRs to go anf work towards same privacy rules we are doing. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I saw RIPE working in that direction because of GDPR but we need to tie the whole lose ends. Thats my take. People may agree or not but i wanted to make my point. Naming is just one slight art of the whole picture. Two bits work together naming ties to the DNS and the IPs but if all information is readily revealed on the other end. Then what we end up with naming and all privacy is very opened on the other end. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When i look at the ewg work i see some logic. There is a need for accuracy to catch abusers as well as ensuring the privacy which some member of the wg want. WHich is more than fair and good. Me i would want mechanism for public info protection and law. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am not forcing anyone to go my way but having been and i teach warfare and these are information we certainly use to to do DDOS etc., and getting addresses etc.,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The rest is the group’s decision. I will just not retake it. I will go with the majority thinking. But if later then this become an issue we overlooked then i would have raised it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kris</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 29, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Maybe it means they have a GDPR/privacy law issue as well.... However, that doesn't really help us directly.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">It would be interesting to know if they have contemplated it yet.</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:37 PM Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Sure. And if I search in the land registry I get my own name and address. What does that have to do with this WG?</div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class="">A</div><div id="m_6874578905357200542AppleMailSignature" class=""><br class="">-- <div class="">Andrew Sullivan </div><div class="">Please excuse my clumbsy thums. </div></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class="">On Jul 29, 2017, at 15:21, Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Have a look at this little search by name and that is not an advanced search. If i do all you would find more than that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: ORG-ME2-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-name: Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-type: ASSOCIATE-MEMBER</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27128075324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=mje-afrinic" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">mje-afrinic</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20mje-afrinic" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> mje-afrinic</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: ELKINS Mark James</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: EMJ1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: SOUTH AFRICA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: N/A</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-type: EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P.O. Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27.826010496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27.128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: ORG-PS1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-name: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-type: EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P.O. Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27.826010496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27.128070590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">mntner</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: POSIX-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">descr: Posix Mantainer</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MJE-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> MJE-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AEP-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AEP-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">auth: MD5-PW $1$aXAEScl7$YRQFpDH6e77GRoi3Idtm50</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Alistair Pritchard</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: ZA</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 72 262 6233</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: AEP-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Mark Elkins</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: MJE-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Posix Systems (Pty) Ltd</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 73892</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Gauteng</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Lynnwood Ridge 0040</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: South Africa</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 12 807 0590</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +27 82 601 0496</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +27 12 807 5324</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: org-ps1-afrinic</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20POSIX-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> POSIX-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: ORG-GKL1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-name: Google Kenya Limited</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-type: EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4100</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4000</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">MA19-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20MA19-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> MA19-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: google_kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Michael Axelrod</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: MA19-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: ICEA Building, Kenyatta Avenue</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +1 650 253 4100</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);min-height:14px" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">inetnum</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: 196.1.4.0 - 196.1.4.255</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">netname: KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">descr: .KE ccTLD Registry</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">descr: Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AfriNIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> KNIC1-AfriNIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20PMJ1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">status: ASSIGNED PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-lower: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">KE-NIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">parent: 196.0.0.0 - 196.255.255.255</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">inet6num</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: 2001:43f8:0010::/48</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">netname: KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">descr: KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=AM17-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">AM17-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20SE1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> SE1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">status: ASSIGNED PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-lower: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KE-NIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">KE-NIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">parent: 2001:4200::/23</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254733790073</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">organisation</b></span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: ORG-KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-name: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">org-type: EU-PI</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">country: KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC)</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: CCK Complex, Waiyaki Way, Opp. Kianda Sch.</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P. O. Box 1461</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi - Kenya 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254204450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">fax-no: +254204450087</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">admin-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class="">KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">tech-c: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20KNIC1-AFRINIC" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-ref: KE-NIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Administrative Manager</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: 1461 - 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254 20 4450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: AM17-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Kenya Network Information Centre - KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: KNIC1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: CA Complex Waiyaki Way, Opp Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: P O Box 1461 - 00606, Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi - KE</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254204450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254733790073</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">mnt-by: <a href="https://my.afrinic.net/whois/search?searchtext=%20AFRINIC-HM-MNT" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(228,112,30)" class=""> AFRINIC-HM-MNT</span></a></span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Paul Museeh John</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: PMJ1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Technical Manager</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: KENIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Kenya</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254725035201</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254 20 4450058</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><b class="">person</b>: Systems Engineer</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Waiyaki Way, Opposite Kianda School</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: 1461 - 00606</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">address: Nairobi</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">phone: +254 204450057</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="text-decoration:underline;font-kerning:none" class="">nic-hdl</span><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">: SE1-AFRINIC</span></div><div style="margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Courier;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class="">source: AFRINIC # Filtered</span></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-kerning:none" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" class="">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="m_6874578905357200542WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica-Light;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Kris<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">I’m sorry, but I still don’t see what you are driving at.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">RIRs collect information from LIRs. (My company is an LIR)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">LIRs in turn add some information to some records under certain circumstances.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">IP addresses and domains are not the same.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">The data that’s collected and how it is collected, managed and published is completely different.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">As I previously said, if you can provide concrete examples of why this is germane it would be helpful but so far you haven’t.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Regards<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><br class="">Michele<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">--<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Mr Michele Neylon<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Blacknight Solutions<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">http://blacknight.blog/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Personal blog:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://michele.blog/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Some thoughts:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://ceo.hosting/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">-------------------------------<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm" class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span class="">From:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="">Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 21:02<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank" class="">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning <<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" target="_blank" class="">rleaning@ripe.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Actually if you look at the policy documents it does not say that you need to provide such and such. But all rir have actually come down to showing the objects and name address contacts just like the Whois. In fact in RIRs you type name of person or company you can have all the details and allocations etc.,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">That has been internal I would say just try a Whois in any rir and type in and selects most fields and see what you get. These can also be abused as well as The Whois as a domain name. <br class=""><br class="">Kris<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br class=""></p>On 26 Jul 2017, at 18:41, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Kris</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">I don’t understand your rationale here at all.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">The data, who it is collected from, how it is managed etc., by RIPE is completely different to how data is handled for domain name registrations.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Can you please explain, with specific examples, why you feel this is germane?</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Regards</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Michele</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">--</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Mr Michele Neylon</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Blacknight Solutions</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Personal blog:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://michele.blog/</a></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Some thoughts:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">https://ceo.hosting/</a></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">-------------------------------</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm" class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span class="">From:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class=""><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 26 July 2017 at 15:31<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Richard Leaning <<a href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">rleaning@ripe.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="m_6874578905357200542Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Review Tool for Responses from ccTLD Registry Operators' to Questions on Privacy, Data Protection and the GDPR</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Hi dick <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">I personally feel we need to get some feedback from nro/aso because whilst we are visiting the fields some of the same are used on the iana with the rir. Since you are from ripe you would know how much info is collected and discussed displayed and how much of the are inaccurate and how much of these are also affecting the work we are doing on the group. I think we need to investigate this line as well to avoid duplication process. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">It's food for thought but I think it's worth looking at. Perhaps between those who are part of rir we could look at what we do and bring our bits here as a review. Else I would push it to nro/aso.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">I personally feel when w</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div>
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