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<p>Ultimately, we seem to move away from "corner cases". At least
many arguments where certain information is not available or does
not make sense are described as such and dismissed. <br>
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<p>Requiring an address for legal service seems like another corner
case, as only a very small minority of all registrations will ever
result in legal service or process to be necessary. So do we want
to include or exclude corner cases?</p>
<p>Also note that many other real-world examples where legal service
or process may become necessary do not have a whois-like database
in place for easy reference, yet legal service of process still
occurs. Those serving the process just have to investigate a bit
more deeply on where and to whom to serve the process. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.08.2017 um 20:04 schrieb
Winterfeldt, Brian J.:<br>
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style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">We agree
it is helpful to keep in mind the point of view that
contactability is synonymous with the legal concept of
service of process. However, in the United States there
is no firm rule regarding the validity of an email address
for this purpose. Contact information needs to be
“reasonably calculated, under all the circumstances, to
apprise Defendants of the pendency of [an] action and
afford them an opportunity to present their objections.” <i>See</i> <i>Liberty
Media Holdings, LLC v. March</i> 2011 U.S. Dist. LEXIS
5290 (S.D. Cal. Jan. 19, 2011). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Outside
of the United States, email by itself is even more
unreliable since each particular country may not have
acceded to the Hague Convention governing service of
process, and, even if they have, exceptions might
explicitly carve still out email addresses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thus, we
believe it in the best interests of all good actors in the
ecosystem to have multiple methods of contactability,
including (most importantly) a street address, in addition
to an email address. We could theoretically forego
contactability in this regard, if registrants are required
to designate an agent for service of process, or if
contracted parties would prefer the unnecessary inclusion
in legal actions where no service of process can be made
on the underlying registrants, or the otherwise directly
responsible parties.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thank
you,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Brian,
Phil and Griffin </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Brian J.
Winterfeldt<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span
style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Co-Head of
Global Brand Management and Internet Practice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>On 24/8/17 9:15 am, Greg Aaron wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:windowtext">Two
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legal processes require multiple methods of
contactability. And require physical addresses, not
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I missed that call, but it's not quite accurate since a court
can order substituted service by email. Even publishing a
notice in the newspaper can be used for service if the court
allows it.<br>
<br>
In any case, I agree with Volker that there should not be three
mandatory contact methods. Physical and/or email address should
be enough.<br>
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