<div dir="ltr">+1 (or +2 perhaps at this point :) )<div><br></div><div>It seems to me that this is a case where it&#39;s potentially helpful data (moreso in edge cases), but not a clear cut need to manage the domain. In the long run, both in terms of implementation (and being able to implement well) and privacy laws down the line, I agree with Alex that our time would be better spent elsewhere. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#666666">Erica Varlese | </font><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-size:12.8px">.blog Shepherd @ KKWT</span><div><font color="#666666">Email: erica@my.blog</font></div><div><font color="#666666">Skype: evarlese</font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Deacon, Alex <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Alex_Deacon@mpaa.org" target="_blank">Alex_Deacon@mpaa.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks to the drafting team for their work on this topic. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree with the conclusion that the “original registration date” need not be included or supported by the RDS. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As for the proposed concept of a “counter” I’m not convinced this is needed, necessary or even helpful.  While I wouldn’t object to such an element I would suggest we spend our time debating more important
 (and useful) matters.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alex<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Amr Elsadr &lt;<a href="mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org" target="_blank">amr.elsadr@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<span class=""><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Dear Working Group Members,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In follow-up to an action item from the 29 August WG call in which the
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22 August poll results</a> were discussed, a drafting team was formed to assist with proposing an alternative WG agreement regarding
<b>“Original Registration Date”</b> to help the WG discuss and reach rough consensus with respect to this data element.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On today’s WG call, a proposed agreement on the data element regarding Original Registration Date was presented by one of the members (Andrew Sullivan) of the drafting team that had been deliberating on it. In follow-up
 to the action item from today’s call: <i>“Staff to distribute drafting team output on Original Registration Date to WG mailing list; all WG members invited to review and comment”</i>,
<b>all WG members are now invited to review and comment on the drafting team’s proposal</b>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">The proposal, as well as the recording of today’s call, were posted on today’s meeting wiki page here:
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https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>ZGfwAw</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Direct links to the proposal in <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fdisplay%2FgTLDRDS%2F2017-09-20%2BNext%2BGen%2BRDS%2BPDP%2BWorking%2BGroup%3Fpreview%3D%2F66086756%2F69284003%2FVolunteer%2520Team%2520on%2520Action%2520Item%2520regarding%2520Original%2520Registration%2520Date%2520-%252018%2520Sep%2520Update.docx&amp;data=02%7C01%7Calex_deacon%40mpaa.org%7C61173ffaf6d940b83ef108d50063283b%7C17e50b56d5dd439b962acc7ecd9ab7fe%7C0%7C1%7C636415348229952185&amp;sdata=GDtJDjNQF7zjuh6PVMa8Cr5jvSqilrzonbCHyRKsY5s%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">
MS Word</a> and <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fdisplay%2FgTLDRDS%2F2017-09-20%2BNext%2BGen%2BRDS%2BPDP%2BWorking%2BGroup%3Fpreview%3D%2F66086756%2F69284004%2FVolunteer%2520Team%2520on%2520Action%2520Item%2520regarding%2520Original%2520Registration%2520Date%2520-%252018%2520Sep%2520Update.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Calex_deacon%40mpaa.org%7C61173ffaf6d940b83ef108d50063283b%7C17e50b56d5dd439b962acc7ecd9ab7fe%7C0%7C1%7C636415348229952185&amp;sdata=ssYPhkik78LXQYrub9%2F1td3xCM4ad2SvMFD8OZ3nNDU%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Amr<u></u><u></u></p>
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