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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group call on Tuesday, 26 September 2017 at 16:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_amfwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=USt7PL4OEQnV6pTBWWk1aCJRHcOPgCzNoZRmhi5jvQc&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_amfwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=USt7PL4OEQnV6pTBWWk1aCJRHcOPgCzNoZRmhi5jvQc&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Herb Waye Ombuds:greetings everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:Hi Herb, hi all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Chuck Gomes:Hello to all. I am back in my home office after nearly walks away.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Chuck Gomes:Let me try that again. Back in my home office after nearly four weeks away.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:hi all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:glad to see the common names</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:@ Chuck I am sure everyone involved in this has nearly walked away once ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Original Registration Date proposal: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66086756_Volunteer-2520Team-2520on-2520Action-2520Item-2520regarding-2520Original-2520Registration-2520Date-2520-2D-252018-2520Sep-2520Update.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=rqV2U9EKEBZCqBvkQUJu9OvbUh_fP1nPPr_aI7KIsU0&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66086756_Volunteer-2520Team-2520on-2520Action-2520Item-2520regarding-2520Original-2520Registration-2520Date-2520-2D-252018-2520Sep-2520Update.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=rqV2U9EKEBZCqBvkQUJu9OvbUh_fP1nPPr_aI7KIsU0&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:Sorry, last meeting ran late.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:I saw nobody argue in favour of this thing. I think it's dead</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:agree it should be dropped </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:Can we let it die?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:flogging horses is cruelty to animals :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Proposed WG Agreement: There is no requirement for the Original Registration Date as proposed by the EWG Final Report.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:I'm good with that</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Volker Greimann:i liked this too. we had a very constructive discourse...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Displayed results: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66086762_AnnotatedResults-2DPoll-2Dfrom-2D20SeptCall.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=Ko-A1HmrcV4FGeMsoG8cHjQj_76c6zMk3Yyucvl-biY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66086762_AnnotatedResults-2DPoll-2Dfrom-2D20SeptCall.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=Ko-A1HmrcV4FGeMsoG8cHjQj_76c6zMk3Yyucvl-biY&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:I'm glad we explored the idea, we laid out the arguments, and now we're done with it. Let's do that again! :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:WG Agreement (from last week's poll Q2): There must be at least one purpose for collecting each data element in the MPDS, and that purpose must be sufficient for making that data element public.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:The ones in purple are actually not answering the question, note</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:for instance, purposes 5-13 don't have to guide the MPDS at all if another one establishes a reason to collect</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alex Deacon:just joining-apologies for being late.....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:@Andrew - purple (blue on my screen) suggest deleting purposes for collection of MPDS</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:(indeed, if purpose 46 were "and purple elephants want this", and yet there are no purple elephants, it doesn't matter)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:@Lisa, I know, but they're not answering the question :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Legal Analysis Memo prepared by WSGR to be posted after call at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_J1zwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=080ofXO14i2bjuSz7F9urmM4eScZTdKHlnuEjaorPzA&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_J1zwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=080ofXO14i2bjuSz7F9urmM4eScZTdKHlnuEjaorPzA&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:Very much looking forward to reading the memo</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Excerpts Chuck is describing will also be posted at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_J1zwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=080ofXO14i2bjuSz7F9urmM4eScZTdKHlnuEjaorPzA&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_J1zwAw&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=080ofXO14i2bjuSz7F9urmM4eScZTdKHlnuEjaorPzA&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:As noted, the memorandum as displayed on the screen will be distributed immediately following this meeting to the mailing list. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:The ICANN58 questions asked and the senior data privacy expert answers are already posted at that same link</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Volker Greimann:hehe, adobe lets you download the document ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:you can get a head start Volker ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Volker Greimann:already did!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:great memo. pg 14 "From the above, it can be seen that asking for consent would not be simple, would not solve all data protection issues, and would pose a number of organizational challenges." +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:Note that a session on GDPR is planned for ICANN60 although I am not sure whether it is already known what the meeting will focus on (but presumably it will include an update on all ongoing activities?)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:May I ask why the particular legal firm was chosen?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Palage:SO Greg you think ICANN is going to provide legal advice on how to comply</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Hammer:Does ICANN have a DPO?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:Michael - they do *now*</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Michael - yes, Dan Halloran was recently appointed in that role</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:they didn't until about 2 months or so ago</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Hammer:So would I be correct to assume that ICANN hasn't completed a DPIA?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Michael - see <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_introducing-2Dicann-2Ds-2Dchief-2Ddata-2Dprotection-2Dofficer-2Dcdpo&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=PvWPUptx7SoTGHI8roVX8mOZuEVnBcKLL5cVQZHu1-g&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_introducing-2Dicann-2Ds-2Dchief-2Ddata-2Dprotection-2Dofficer-2Dcdpo&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=PvWPUptx7SoTGHI8roVX8mOZuEVnBcKLL5cVQZHu1-g&e=</a> for
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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Aaron:ICANN will perhaps offer contractual waivers. lLet's put it that way.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alex Deacon:+1 Alan. seperate but releated problems. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:that is mostly true.... @ alan very true as Afrinic under IANA is starting to look at the whois. Nothing came from ICANN by any means...we are discussing what we need to do with the RIR whois</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:One can dream that proportionality will allow data commissioners to just allow WHOIS as it is today. BUt if that does not happen, we need to decide what will work.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:ICANN ignored everything up until a couple of months ago</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:+1 Susan. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Hammer:That is not uncommon Michele.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:Incidentally the bio of ICANN's new DPO does not suggest he has a background in data protection or privacy.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:he doesnt seem to have any idea unfortunately</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:I dearly hope that this does not come to be a discussion of how ICANN-the-organization has failed in various ways to satisfy ICANN-the-community in a number of dimensions. Much of this discussion,
I willl note, happened at boring length during the IANA changes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:sorry to say that</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:It is unfortunate, but here we are, and I don't see why we should care what the shortcomings of the organization have been in respect of previous policies</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:let's make new policy that makes things better</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Volker Greimann:Contracted parties are favored? Never noticed that. Feels like the opposite</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:+1 susan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alex Deacon:+1 Susan....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Fabricio Vayra:+1 Susan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Herb Waye Ombuds:Sorry folks, I have to run for another committment, have a great day all...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vicky Sheckler:+1 susan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Hammer: - Alan, I don't think dreaming is the right approach. It is up to ICANN, whether as an organization (top down) or through working groups (bottom up) to make the case as to why WHOIS, to whatever
extent data elements are made public, should fall under proportionality.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:@Michael, and I think that is exactly what theu are hoping to do.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:I was merely attempting to point out risk. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:I have been pointing out that binding corporate rules would have been a good option. I still believe it can be done, supplemented by thorough privacy impact assessments.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:its not only the gdpr, south africa is enacting POPI and i know Mauritius we are fast tracking to align to gdpr and be enacted by Jan 2018</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Kawaguchi:@ Alan, sorry do not agree with you </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:I'm taking myself out of queue because I'd just be piling on and we have other work to do :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:@Kris, we have included South Africa's data protection law in this WG's inventory of inputs and possible requirements list, which someday we'll get back to deliberating on...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Chuck Gomes:Thanks Andrew</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Palage:Now available online - <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66083879_WSGR-2520memorandum-2520to-2520RDS-2520PDP-2520WG-2520-2D-2520FINAL-2520-2D-252025-2520September-25202017.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1506443238731-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=RBXqnO1D2blpilxKprGntMZWo7Qm0rNVGE3SmXcR-Wo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_66083879_WSGR-2520memorandum-2520to-2520RDS-2520PDP-2520WG-2520-2D-2520FINAL-2520-2D-252025-2520September-25202017.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1506443238731-26api-3Dv2&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=RBXqnO1D2blpilxKprGntMZWo7Qm0rNVGE3SmXcR-Wo&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:But AFAICT, given the ICANN policy making stuff, suppose that whois rules were changed _tomorrow_ and came into effect. IMO that would have exactly no consequence for us</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:because we are in a position to make a new policy & replace whatever change happens tomorrow. That's what we're supposed to be doing, not worrying about all this other stuff</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Greg - those were submitted to the effort</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:ICANN org did open use cases up to public comment, for anyone to submit use cases.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:@lisa : thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:Also, aren't we all members of the community? WTH that ICANN has to "ask us" for stuff?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:A@Greg. Anyone of us who was consulted could have pointed to the use cases we develioped, just as they used the EWG work.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vicky Sheckler:agree w/ greg re: we should be prepared for the likely need for further legal advice as we move forward with RDS</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:@stephanie +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alan Greenberg:Stephanie, can you (offline) define what you mean by binding coporate rules?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michele Neylon:Alan <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Binding-5Fcorporate-5Frules&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=wEkShqs6UxcG7Yr7KSFwARyGgVdJ7beVzw6YDxjNp78&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Binding-5Fcorporate-5Frules&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=2RMrd7NaanYJj8MqdLAsdy94x43GgU0aBy571ogqh9M&s=wEkShqs6UxcG7Yr7KSFwARyGgVdJ7beVzw6YDxjNp78&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Alex Deacon:FWIW IPC included several EWG use cases in its use case document submitted to the ad-hoc WG on GDPR....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:@Stephanie, don't BCRs change with GDPR and Privacy Shield?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:If we're going to keep getting legal advice, could we also get some technical advice too? We seem not to be willing to listen to that internally all the time either ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:I must correct myself, the GDPR had been tabled in 2012, not passed at the time we got the legal advice. I suppose there may have been a faint hope in some quarters that it would not pass.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Note that our charter anticipates getting legal advice on proposed requirements in phase 1, then proposed policy in phase 2/3. There is also in our charter examining technical feasibility of proposed
policies in phase 3 (which may cause phase 2 proposed policies to be revisited)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:yes Lisa they do change but still possible, we need legal advice on how to implement them in the new environment. A lot of work has gone into contractual clauses and BCRS.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lisa Phifer:Action for all WG members to participate in one-question poll on proposed WG agreement (Original Registraiton Date)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks all </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Nathalie Coupet:Bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> andrew sullivan:thanks everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ayden Férdeline:thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Stephanie Perrin:PRivacy Shield only covers US, there are 120 countries witt DP law. BCRs help with the global problem</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Krishna Seeburn - Kris:thanks all</div>
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