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<p>A simple policy proscription would be, for instance, to say under
US law if you get a domain under the control of a US registrar, we
need you to consent to full disclosure. Don't like it, pick a
European ccTLD. I don't advocate that, mind you, but that's the
kind of policy balkanization could produce.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/27/2017 04:31 PM, Paul Keating
wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">I am failing to understand
how such a walled-garden approach will solve anything.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>EU
registrars/registries would still have to deal with GDPR.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Registrars
are not aided by the distinction since they would still end up
with EU customers and EU registrant data.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">PRK</font></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday,
September 27, 2017 at 11:03 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Rubens Kuhl <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] WSGR Final Memorandum<br>
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<div>Assuming for argument's sake that's true without taking
any position as I'm still catching up from a week ago, I'm
not sure this should be dismissed without consideration as
a possibility, although obviously not by any stretch of
the imagination ideal --> non-EU registrars block EU
registrants, and registries contract with non-EU
registrars.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:25
PM, Rubens Kuhl <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:17 PM, John Horton
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)">Much
of this problem goes away if we all
agree that EU-based registrars should
henceforth only be allowed to accept
registrants in the EU. Aside from the
effect on EU registrars' revenue, what's
the logical argument against that from a
policy perspective? </div>
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<div
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)">After
all, isn't the purpose of the GDPR to
protect <u>EU residents</u>? </div>
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<div>That's correct, but the conclusion is not.
Non-EU registrars are also subject to GDPR if
targeting EU customers, which could be as simple
as providing services in EU languages and
accepting registration transactions from the
EU. </div>
<div>So, for the problem to go away non-EU
registrars would need to block EU registrants,
and registries would only be able to enter
contracts with non-EU registrars.</div>
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<div>So EU users would either be happy using
numeric IP addresses, or develop a naming system
of their own. Then we would have balkanisation,
this time actually including the original
balkans. </div>
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