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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Volker,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Just as you expressed your concern with John’s yelling (writing words in ALL CAPS), I also want to caution you in the use of sarcasm. I think the point you made can be made without sarcasm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>At the same time, I want to compliment both of you for grappling with key issues as you are doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext'> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: WSGR Final Memorandum<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Indeed, John, the gall of European countries to attempt to force companies doing business in Europe and/or with European citizens to abide by the laws applicable in those countries is offensive to the max! Where would we get if every country enforced its laws? Oh yes, law and order, that is where...<span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p>Volker<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 26.09.2017 um 23:54 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>I want to point out something on page 17, namely this quote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>"We think the best way to avoid conflicts would be to try to bring the data processing practices of ICANN and the registrars in line with EU data protection law as much as possible, and to give primacy to EU data protection requirements when they clash with those of other jurisdictions."<o:p></o:p></p><p>This is a patently offensive claim of European imperialism. One ventures down this road with great consequences.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>j<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9/26/2017 4:29 PM, Chuck wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As most of you recall, at the request of multiple WG members, we decided in early June to engage a law firm with experience in European data protection law to provide our WG with independent answers to the same questions we asked the European data protection experts earlier in the year. The final report from that effort is what Marika sent to the list shortly after our WG call today; it is attached to this message as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>All members are requested to review this report by Friday of this week if possible. The leadership team has prepared a list of principles that are excerpted from the WSGR Final Report and/or from the Data Expert answers that we think will be relevant to our ongoing work. We have asked the small advisory group that we formed in early June to review the principles and let us know if the excerpts are accurate and complete. After they have had time to respond, we will finalize the principles document and send it to the full WG for all to review; our goal is to do that by the end of this week so that we can use it in our WG meeting next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>It is the opinion of the leadership team that the information the Data Protection experts provided has been confirmed by WSGR in their final report, albeit with more detail in some cases. We also believe that our objective of obtaining an independent analysis of the questions has been met, so it is now time for us to put the information to use in answering the first four questions in our charter and that is the plan starting next week. To facilitate that, the principles will be mapped to the first four charter questions, a task that is now underway.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I am sure this WG could debate the answers received for the next six months but we are not going to do that. We received answers from the Data Protection experts. Some feared bias so we obtained an independent analysis. That analysis confirms the information that we had already been given with some clarifying insights. It is now time to apply that information to our deliberation and finish answering critical questions in our charter and develop RDS requirements for Phase 1.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>If I left anything out or anyone on the leadership team wants to add anything, please feel free to do.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2017 9:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] WSGR Final Memorandum</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>As discussed during today’s meeting, please find attached for your review and consideration the final memorandum from Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, LLP (WSGR) concerning the final responses to EU data protection questions re. gTLD Registration Directory data. Chuck will follow up on this message shortly with further instructions and next steps. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Marika Konings</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Email: <a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Find out more about the GNSO by taking our <a href="http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso">interactive courses</a> and visiting the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers">GNSO Newcomer pages</a>. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>John Bambenek<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Volker A. 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