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<p>So when will you start advocating the collection and publication
of WHOIS for internet users? Because they would be connecting to
your network all the time...</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.09.2017 um 20:48 schrieb John
Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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<p>"<font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">As for privacy
proxy solving the problem, it does not. Over collection is
not solved by providing a proxy in the third party
disclosure mechanism. It is still over-collection,
disproportionate to needs."</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I fundamentally
disagree because the purpose of ICANN is not the mere
facilitation of domain from registry to registrant. The
purpose is the security and stability of the internet and
that means I have a need to verify who is connecting to my
network and have a means of contacting them. That point has
never been made, to my knowledge, to them.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The point that
removing that ability of me being able to contact domain
owners does far MORE to REDUCE the privacy of the
registrants than does publishing said information. We talk
often about verification out-of-band for sensitive
communications. How can I do that without a phone number?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I will loudly and
vigorously argue that the path advocated will make the
problem FAR worse and not better. Hopefully we don't get to
the point where I have actual data to prove that.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/26/2017 1:34 PM, Stephanie
Perrin wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:27ea660a-cf4f-046c-48da-ad619cc1b5fe@mail.utoronto.ca"><font
size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">As for privacy proxy
solving the problem, it does not. Over collection is not
solved by providing a proxy in the third party disclosure
mechanism. It is still over-collection, disproportionate to
needs.</font></font></blockquote>
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