<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Stephanie,<br><br></div>Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that any of the data elements being discussed as possible candidates for inclusion in RDS would be considered "sensitive personal data" as defined under GDPR. We aren't asking for political beliefs, sexual orientation, trade union membership or any of the other categories specified.<br><br></div>If you had stated "<font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Making personal data
public does not, by legal definition, change its character as
personal data."</font></font> then we could perhaps find agreement and move on to a discussion as to which data elements are truly personal data, whether the collection and publication is justified based on the purpose/activity and things like proportionality. <br><br></div>My sense is that unless we (collectively) work to find areas of common understanding, this effort is doomed to failure.<br><br></div>We should be asking ourselves questions like:<br><br></div>If this data/information is not available (publicly/gated), what are potential impacts (positive or negative) on the security and stability of DNS and the Internet?" What are the impacts to individuals and what are the impacts to the ecosystem as a whole? We cannot answer questions like proportionality without considering these sorts of questions. <br><br>I would pose this question to the group: If you knew with some certainty that limiting availability of information that allows individuals, groups and organizations to mitigate abuse at scale would wreak havoc on the stability, security and overall usefulness of the Internet, would you advocate the limitations currently being advocated?<br><br></div>At the other end of the spectrum I would pose this question: Recognizing privacy concerns (whether legal or ethical), what mechanisms might be implemented within the proposed RDS that would protect individual privacy of legitimate users but still allow abuse mitigation techniques based on DNS information of Internet abuse?<br><br></div>I think this (to some extent) stakes out the 2 extremes and asks how to address the key issue(s) presented by proponents of the other extreme.<br><br></div>Let's try thinking outside the box.<br><br></div>Michael Hammer<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br>On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Making sensitive data
public does not, by legal definition, change its character as
personal data.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie P</font></font><br>
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<div class="m_6373870469082176298moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-09-28 09:34, John Bambenek via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br>
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<div>Public data cannot, by definition, be breached. </div>
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<div id="m_6373870469082176298AppleMailSignature">J<br>
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<div>John Bambenek</div>
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On Sep 28, 2017, at 08:29, theo geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div> Indeed privacy prevents a lot of consumers being
exploited.<br>
<br>
Privacy by design usually plays a significant role when
setting up security around databases. Often, less is more,
data that is not present cannot cause a data breach. The GDPR
had to set a whole bunch of rules around data breaches and
response times and accounting. Though given the number of
weekly data breaches, most likely for the best, yet it is
still a load of rules to deal with. <br>
<br>
Theo<br>
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<div class="m_6373870469082176298moz-cite-prefix">On 28-9-2017 15:19, John Bambenek
via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br>
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<div>Thankfully there are people who donate their time and
talent tackling the privacy and security risks that are
seeking to exploit consumers. ;)<br>
<br>
--
<div>John Bambenek</div>
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On Sep 28, 2017, at 03:08, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>The role of ICANN to ensure the stability and
security of the internet is a technical role, not one
of being an internet policeman. That role is already
filled by internet policemen.</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_6373870469082176298moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.09.2017 um 20:05
schrieb Chuck:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Without
at all minimizing ICANN’s role with regard to
security and stability of the Internet because I
do believe that is a critical role, I do want to
point out that that also is a limited role.
Here is a copy of the first part of ICANN’s
mission from its Bylaws:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">“</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">Section 1.1. MISSION</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">(a) The mission of the Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("<b>ICANN</b>")
is to ensure the stable and secure operation of
the Internet's unique identifier systems as
described in this <u>Section 1.1(a)</u> (the "<b>Mission</b>").
Specifically, ICANN:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">(i) Coordinates the allocation and
assignment of names in the root zone of the
Domain Name System ("<b>DNS</b>") and
coordinates the development and implementation
of policies concerning the registration of
second-level domain names in generic top-level
domains ("<b>gTLDs</b>"). In this role, ICANN's
scope is to coordinate the development and
implementation of policies:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:30.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">For which uniform or coordinated
resolution is reasonably necessary to facilitate
the openness, interoperability, resilience,
security and/or stability of the DNS including,
with respect to gTLD registrars and registries,
policies in the areas described in Annex G-1 and
Annex G-2; and</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:30.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">That are developed through a bottom-up
consensus-based multistakeholder process and
designed to ensure the stable and secure
operation of the Internet's unique names
systems.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">The issues, policies, procedures, and
principles addressed in Annex G-1 and Annex G-2
with respect to gTLD registrars and registries
shall be deemed to be within ICANN's Mission.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">. . .</span><span style="color:windowtext">”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">Note in (a) and the second bullet
under (i) that it says “</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">to ensure the stable and secure
operation of the Internet's unique identifier
systems</span><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">”. ICANN’s security and stability
role is limited to its responsibilities
involving the ‘</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">Internet's unique identifier systems</span><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN">’. I am pretty sure everyone
understands that but wanted to make sure. For
our purposes in this WG, ICANN has a clear
mandate to ensure security and stability of the
generic domain names system.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN"> Chuck</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_6373870469082176298__MailEndCompose"><span style="color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p>
<span></span>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
[<a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bambenek via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2017
9:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN
Meetings/Conversations with Data Protection
and Privacy Commissioners<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>Except that the domain name system is not YOUR
system, it is ICANN's who has a very clear mandate
for the security and stability of the internet.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>The purpose is NOT letting registrants get
domains and helping registries get paid. It never
has been.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 09/27/2017 09:52 AM,
Volker Greimann wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p>Hi Greg,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I think we need to dig down even deeper
initially. Instead of RDS, the core of the
matter is the need for the data when defining
the purpose for collection.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>This is very easy to answer for registrars: "We
need (certain elements of) the data to be able
to properly provide the business, invoice the
customer, collect his payments, send reminders
and notices, protect the rights of the customers
in case of business failure, comply with legal
requirements like record-keeping, etc.". I am
leaving out any contractual requirements, as
they do not matter for the registrars' own
purpose. These are external purposes that the
registrar would have to execute without having
an own, direct need for. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>For registries, it gets fuzzier as they do not
have a direct connection to the registrants.
From a service provision perspective, registries
have no need for the data, and no right to it,
except maybe for purposes of eligibility
verification. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>When going beyond registries to the general
public, there is no purpose that connects to the
provision of the service to the registrant
directly. There also (in most countries) is no
legal requirement to collect and publish this
data. Yet there is still a need for the data, as
we have discussed in great detail. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>So our first question always must be the
following:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>"How do we serve the needs of the general
public that has an interest in the ability of
obtaining such data without violating any
applicable laws or the rights of the registrant
to the privacy of his data?"<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>This has to be the basis of any design decision
and any argument made in this group. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Arguing that certain laws are unreasonable or
unworkable is a dangerous question as it
effectively proposes to ignore laws that we as a
community do not like, at the risk of contracted
parties and to the detriment of the
beneficiaries of such laws. just because there
has not been any enforcement action in the past
does not mean we can ignore the law applicable
to the individual contracted parties. And we are
not talking about jaywalking here, some of these
laws have significant penalties attached to
them, as we have also discussed before. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I agree with Greg that the ability of
contracted parties to be free to make business
decisions cannot be absolute. It has to be bound
on the one side by ICANN policies and the other
side by applicable law. And these two external
pressures should not be in conflict with each
other. If we can achieve that while answering
the basic question above, our work is done. At
least for the time being, as laws may obviously
change, but that can be taken into account as
well. Any discussion that seeks to circumvent
this basic question will ultimately lead to the
failure of our work and by extention to the end
of whois. The latter due to the incompatibility
of current whois with applicable law.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I think with our initial "purpose definition"
exercise, we already went a great way in
determining what those needs are and our current
work to discuss data points goes into that
question as well, even though personally I feel
that by defining data points at this point and
going into the sticks in some of the discussions
we are wasting time. The question should never
be "Do we need a Facebook contact in the RDS?"
and always be "What contacts are needed as bare
minimum to achieve needs X, Y, Z, ...". <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Volker<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 27.09.2017 um 16:00
schrieb Greg Shatan:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The "data
controllers" here do not exist in a
vacuum. While registrars and registries
need to be free to make many types of
decisions in their own business
judgment, that cannot be an absolute
rule. This is at odds with the ICANN
model, consensus policy, etc. In this
case, the data controllers are part of a
larger ecosystem, and the "needs" go
beyond the individual business needs of
each data controller. (Indeed, the
individual data controller has its own
database of information for its business
needs.)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As
I previously noted, we are going back to
first principles -- which is not
necessarily a bad thing. Why does ICANN
(and by extension, the Internet) need
WHOIS/RDS? That is the question. Not
"why does a particular
[registrar/registry] need WHOIS/RDS?"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Greg</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at
5:12 AM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p>So when will you start advocating the
collection and publication of WHOIS
for internet users? Because they would
be connecting to your network all the
time...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:#888888">Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am 26.09.2017
um 20:48 schrieb John Bambenek
via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p>"<span>As for
privacy proxy solving the
problem, it does not. Over
collection is not solved by
providing a proxy in the third
party disclosure mechanism.
It is still over-collection,
disproportionate to needs."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span>I
fundamentally disagree because
the purpose of ICANN is not
the mere facilitation of
domain from registry to
registrant. The purpose is the
security and stability of the
internet and that means I have
a need to verify who is
connecting to my network and
have a means of contacting
them. That point has never
been made, to my knowledge, to
them.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span>The point
that removing that ability of
me being able to contact
domain owners does far MORE to
REDUCE the privacy of the
registrants than does
publishing said information.
We talk often about
verification out-of-band for
sensitive communications. How
can I do that without a phone
number?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span>I will
loudly and vigorously argue
that the path advocated will
make the problem FAR worse and
not better. Hopefully we don't
get to the point where I have
actual data to prove that.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
9/26/2017 1:34 PM, Stephanie
Perrin wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>As for
privacy proxy solving the
problem, it does not. Over
collection is not solved by
providing a proxy in the
third party disclosure
mechanism. It is still
over-collection,
disproportionate to needs.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
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<pre>CEO: Alexander Siffrin<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Key-Systems GmbH<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Im Oberen Werk 1<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>66386 St. Ingbert<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Volker A. Greimann<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>- legal department -<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><u></u> <u></u></pre>
<pre>Key-Systems GmbH<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Im Oberen Werk 1<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>66386 St. Ingbert<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Fax.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396851" value="+4968949396851" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>CEO: Alexander Siffrin<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<pre>Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<u></u><u></u></pre>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a>
Fax.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396851" value="+4968949396851" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851</a>
Email: <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" target="_blank">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" target="_blank">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Best regards,
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- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a>
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Email: <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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