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    <p>But no one has drawn up a new routing protocol that would allow
      networks to receive traffic without knowing source IP (ergo
      requiring disclosure). And if you posted your home IP on twitter,
      it isn't on twitter that it happened. A consumer chose to put it
      there.<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/28/2017 11:18 AM, Volker Greimann
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>As even IP addresses have been held to be sensitive personal
        data that may not be stored without need, the same goes doubly
        for contact details.</p>
      <p>Volker<br>
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      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.09.2017 um 15:58 schrieb
        Dotzero:<br>
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                          <div>Stephanie,<br>
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                          Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
                          believe that any of the data elements being
                          discussed as possible candidates for inclusion
                          in RDS would be considered "sensitive personal
                          data" as defined under GDPR. We aren't asking
                          for political beliefs, sexual orientation,
                          trade union membership or any of the other
                          categories specified.<br>
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                        If you had stated  "<font size="+1"><font
                            face="Lucida Grande">Making personal data
                            public does not, by legal definition, change
                            its character as personal data."</font></font>
                        then we could perhaps find agreement and move on
                        to a discussion as to which data elements are
                        truly personal data, whether the collection and
                        publication is justified based on the
                        purpose/activity and things like
                        proportionality. <br>
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                      My sense is that unless we (collectively) work to
                      find areas of common understanding, this effort is
                      doomed to failure.<br>
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                    We should be asking ourselves questions like:<br>
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                  If this data/information is not available
                  (publicly/gated), what are potential impacts (positive
                  or negative) on the security and stability of DNS and
                  the Internet?" What are the impacts to individuals and
                  what are the impacts to the ecosystem as a whole? We
                  cannot answer questions like proportionality without
                  considering these sorts of questions. <br>
                  <br>
                  I would pose this question to the group: If you knew
                  with some certainty that limiting availability of
                  information that allows individuals, groups and
                  organizations to mitigate abuse at scale would wreak
                  havoc on the stability, security and overall
                  usefulness of the Internet, would you advocate the
                  limitations currently being advocated?<br>
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                At the other end of the spectrum I would pose this
                question: Recognizing privacy concerns (whether legal or
                ethical), what mechanisms might be implemented within
                the proposed RDS that would protect individual privacy
                of legitimate users but still allow abuse mitigation
                techniques based on DNS information of Internet abuse?<br>
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              I think this (to some extent) stakes out the 2 extremes
              and asks how to address the key issue(s) presented by
              proponents of the other extreme.<br>
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            Let's try thinking outside the box.<br>
            <br>
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          Michael Hammer<br>
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                            On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Stephanie
                            Perrin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                      Grande">Making sensitive data
                                      public does not, by legal
                                      definition, change its character
                                      as personal data.</font></font></p>
                                <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
                                      Grande">Stephanie P</font></font><br>
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                                    <div
                                      class="m_6373870469082176298moz-cite-prefix">On
                                      2017-09-28 09:34, John Bambenek
                                      via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>Public data cannot, by
                                        definition, be breached. </div>
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                                        --
                                        <div>John Bambenek</div>
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                                      <div><br>
                                        On Sep 28, 2017, at 08:29, theo
                                        geurts &lt;<a
                                          href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                        <div> Indeed privacy prevents a
                                          lot of consumers being
                                          exploited.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Privacy by design usually
                                          plays a significant role when
                                          setting up security around
                                          databases. Often, less is
                                          more, data that is not present
                                          cannot cause a data breach.
                                          The GDPR had to set a whole
                                          bunch of rules around data
                                          breaches and response times
                                          and accounting. Though given
                                          the number of weekly data
                                          breaches, most likely for the
                                          best, yet it is still a load
                                          of rules to deal with. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Theo<br>
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                                          <div
                                            class="m_6373870469082176298moz-cite-prefix">On
                                            28-9-2017 15:19, John
                                            Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                            <div>Thankfully there are
                                              people who donate their
                                              time and talent tackling
                                              the privacy and security
                                              risks that are seeking to
                                              exploit consumers. ;)<br>
                                              <br>
                                              --
                                              <div>John Bambenek</div>
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                                            <div><br>
                                              On Sep 28, 2017, at 03:08,
                                              Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                <p>The role of ICANN to
                                                  ensure the stability
                                                  and security of the
                                                  internet is a
                                                  technical role, not
                                                  one of being an
                                                  internet policeman.
                                                  That role is already
                                                  filled by internet
                                                  policemen.</p>
                                                <p>Volker<br>
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                                                <div
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                                                  27.09.2017 um 20:05
                                                  schrieb Chuck:<br>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext">Without at all minimizing ICANN’s role with
                                                        regard to
                                                        security and
                                                        stability of the
                                                        Internet because
                                                        I do believe
                                                        that is a
                                                        critical role, I
                                                        do want to point
                                                        out that that
                                                        also is a
                                                        limited role. 
                                                        Here is a copy
                                                        of the first
                                                        part of ICANN’s
                                                        mission from its
                                                        Bylaws:</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext"> </span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext">“</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">Section
                                                        1.1. MISSION</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">(a)
                                                        The mission of
                                                        the Internet
                                                        Corporation for
                                                        Assigned Names
                                                        and Numbers ("<b>ICANN</b>")
                                                        is to ensure the
                                                        stable and
                                                        secure operation
                                                        of the
                                                        Internet's
                                                        unique
                                                        identifier
                                                        systems as
                                                        described in
                                                        this <u>Section
                                                          1.1(a)</u>
                                                        (the "<b>Mission</b>").
                                                        Specifically,
                                                        ICANN:</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">(i)
                                                        Coordinates the
                                                        allocation and
                                                        assignment of
                                                        names in the
                                                        root zone of the
                                                        Domain Name
                                                        System ("<b>DNS</b>")
                                                        and coordinates
                                                        the development
                                                        and
                                                        implementation
                                                        of policies
                                                        concerning the
                                                        registration of
                                                        second-level
                                                        domain names in
                                                        generic
                                                        top-level
                                                        domains ("<b>gTLDs</b>").
                                                        In this role,
                                                        ICANN's scope is
                                                        to coordinate
                                                        the development
                                                        and
                                                        implementation
                                                        of policies:</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:30.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span>         </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">For
                                                        which uniform or
                                                        coordinated
                                                        resolution is
                                                        reasonably
                                                        necessary to
                                                        facilitate the
                                                        openness,
                                                        interoperability,
                                                        resilience,
                                                        security and/or
                                                        stability of the
                                                        DNS including,
                                                        with respect to
                                                        gTLD registrars
                                                        and registries,
                                                        policies in the
                                                        areas described
                                                        in Annex G-1 and
                                                        Annex G-2; and</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:11.25pt;margin-left:30.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span>         </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">That
                                                        are developed
                                                        through a
                                                        bottom-up
                                                        consensus-based
                                                        multistakeholder
                                                        process and
                                                        designed to
                                                        ensure the
                                                        stable and
                                                        secure operation
                                                        of the
                                                        Internet's
                                                        unique names
                                                        systems.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">The
                                                        issues,
                                                        policies,
                                                        procedures, and
                                                        principles
                                                        addressed in
                                                        Annex G-1 and
                                                        Annex G-2 with
                                                        respect to gTLD
                                                        registrars and
                                                        registries shall
                                                        be deemed to be
                                                        within ICANN's
                                                        Mission.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">. . .</span><span
style="color:windowtext">”</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">Note
                                                        in (a) and the
                                                        second bullet
                                                        under (i) that
                                                        it says “</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">to
                                                        ensure the
                                                        stable and
                                                        secure operation
                                                        of the
                                                        Internet's
                                                        unique
                                                        identifier
                                                        systems</span><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">”. 
                                                        ICANN’s security
                                                        and stability
                                                        role is limited
                                                        to its
                                                        responsibilities
                                                        involving the ‘</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">Internet's
                                                        unique
                                                        identifier
                                                        systems</span><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN">’.  I
                                                        am pretty sure
                                                        everyone
                                                        understands that
                                                        but wanted to
                                                        make sure.  For
                                                        our purposes in
                                                        this WG, ICANN
                                                        has a clear
                                                        mandate to
                                                        ensure security
                                                        and stability of
                                                        the generic
                                                        domain names
                                                        system.</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"
                                                        lang="EN"> Chuck</span></p>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:windowtext"> </span></p>
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name="m_6373870469082176298__MailEndCompose" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:windowtext"> </span></a></p>
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style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext">
                                                          <a
                                                          class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>
                                                          [<a
                                                          class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>John
                                                          Bambenek via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Wednesday,
                                                          September 27,
                                                          2017 9:12 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> <a
class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                                          href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                                          ICANN
                                                          Meetings/Conversations
                                                          with Data
                                                          Protection and
                                                          Privacy
                                                          Commissioners</span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                    <p>Except that the
                                                      domain name system
                                                      is not YOUR
                                                      system, it is
                                                      ICANN's who has a
                                                      very clear mandate
                                                      for the security
                                                      and stability of
                                                      the internet.</p>
                                                    <p>The purpose is
                                                      NOT letting
                                                      registrants get
                                                      domains and
                                                      helping registries
                                                      get paid. It never
                                                      has been.</p>
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                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal">On
                                                        09/27/2017 09:52
                                                        AM, Volker
                                                        Greimann wrote:</p>
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                                                      <p>Hi Greg,</p>
                                                      <p>I think we need
                                                        to dig down even
                                                        deeper
                                                        initially.
                                                        Instead of RDS,
                                                        the core of the
                                                        matter is the
                                                        need for the
                                                        data when
                                                        defining the
                                                        purpose for
                                                        collection.</p>
                                                      <p>This is very
                                                        easy to answer
                                                        for registrars:
                                                        "We need
                                                        (certain
                                                        elements of) the
                                                        data to be able
                                                        to properly
                                                        provide the
                                                        business,
                                                        invoice the
                                                        customer,
                                                        collect his
                                                        payments, send
                                                        reminders and
                                                        notices, protect
                                                        the rights of
                                                        the customers in
                                                        case of business
                                                        failure, comply
                                                        with legal
                                                        requirements
                                                        like
                                                        record-keeping,
                                                        etc.". I am
                                                        leaving out any
                                                        contractual
                                                        requirements, as
                                                        they do not
                                                        matter for the
                                                        registrars' own
                                                        purpose. These
                                                        are external
                                                        purposes that
                                                        the registrar
                                                        would have to
                                                        execute without
                                                        having an own,
                                                        direct need for.
                                                      </p>
                                                      <p>For registries,
                                                        it gets fuzzier
                                                        as they do not
                                                        have a direct
                                                        connection to
                                                        the registrants.
                                                        From a service
                                                        provision
                                                        perspective,
                                                        registries have
                                                        no need for the
                                                        data, and no
                                                        right to it,
                                                        except maybe for
                                                        purposes of
                                                        eligibility
                                                        verification. </p>
                                                      <p>When going
                                                        beyond
                                                        registries to
                                                        the general
                                                        public, there is
                                                        no purpose that
                                                        connects to the
                                                        provision of the
                                                        service to the
                                                        registrant
                                                        directly. There
                                                        also (in most
                                                        countries) is no
                                                        legal
                                                        requirement to
                                                        collect and
                                                        publish this
                                                        data. Yet there
                                                        is still a need
                                                        for the data, as
                                                        we have
                                                        discussed in
                                                        great detail. </p>
                                                      <p>So our first
                                                        question always
                                                        must be the
                                                        following:</p>
                                                      <p>"How do we
                                                        serve the needs
                                                        of the general
                                                        public that has
                                                        an interest in
                                                        the ability of
                                                        obtaining such
                                                        data without
                                                        violating any
                                                        applicable laws
                                                        or the rights of
                                                        the registrant
                                                        to the privacy
                                                        of his data?"</p>
                                                      <p>This has to be
                                                        the basis of any
                                                        design decision
                                                        and any argument
                                                        made in this
                                                        group. </p>
                                                      <p>Arguing that
                                                        certain laws are
                                                        unreasonable or
                                                        unworkable is a
                                                        dangerous
                                                        question as it
                                                        effectively
                                                        proposes to
                                                        ignore laws that
                                                        we as a
                                                        community do not
                                                        like, at the
                                                        risk of
                                                        contracted
                                                        parties and to
                                                        the detriment of
                                                        the
                                                        beneficiaries of
                                                        such laws. just
                                                        because there
                                                        has not been any
                                                        enforcement
                                                        action in the
                                                        past does not
                                                        mean we can
                                                        ignore the law
                                                        applicable to
                                                        the individual
                                                        contracted
                                                        parties. And we
                                                        are not talking
                                                        about jaywalking
                                                        here, some of
                                                        these laws have
                                                        significant
                                                        penalties
                                                        attached to
                                                        them, as we have
                                                        also discussed
                                                        before.  </p>
                                                      <p>I agree with
                                                        Greg that the
                                                        ability of
                                                        contracted
                                                        parties to be
                                                        free to make
                                                        business
                                                        decisions cannot
                                                        be absolute. It
                                                        has to be bound
                                                        on the one side
                                                        by ICANN
                                                        policies and the
                                                        other side by
                                                        applicable law.
                                                        And these two
                                                        external
                                                        pressures should
                                                        not be in
                                                        conflict with
                                                        each other. If
                                                        we can achieve
                                                        that while
                                                        answering the
                                                        basic question
                                                        above, our work
                                                        is done. At
                                                        least for the
                                                        time being, as
                                                        laws may
                                                        obviously
                                                        change, but that
                                                        can be taken
                                                        into account as
                                                        well. Any
                                                        discussion that
                                                        seeks to
                                                        circumvent this
                                                        basic question
                                                        will ultimately
                                                        lead to the
                                                        failure of our
                                                        work and by
                                                        extention to the
                                                        end of whois.
                                                        The latter due
                                                        to the
                                                        incompatibility
                                                        of current whois
                                                        with applicable
                                                        law.</p>
                                                      <p>I think with
                                                        our initial
                                                        "purpose
                                                        definition"
                                                        exercise, we
                                                        already went a
                                                        great way in
                                                        determining what
                                                        those needs are
                                                        and our current
                                                        work to discuss
                                                        data points goes
                                                        into that
                                                        question as
                                                        well, even
                                                        though
                                                        personally I
                                                        feel that by
                                                        defining data
                                                        points at this
                                                        point and going
                                                        into the sticks
                                                        in some of the
                                                        discussions we
                                                        are wasting
                                                        time. The
                                                        question should
                                                        never be "Do we
                                                        need a Facebook
                                                        contact in the
                                                        RDS?" and always
                                                        be "What
                                                        contacts are
                                                        needed as bare
                                                        minimum to
                                                        achieve needs X,
                                                        Y, Z, ...". </p>
                                                      <p>Best,</p>
                                                      <p>Volker</p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Am
                                                          27.09.2017 um
                                                          16:00 schrieb
                                                          Greg Shatan:</p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">​</span><span
                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">The
                                                          "data
                                                          controllers"
                                                          here do not
                                                          exist in a
                                                          vacuum.  While
                                                          registrars and
                                                          registries
                                                          need to be
                                                          free to make
                                                          many types of
                                                          decisions in
                                                          their own
                                                          business
                                                          judgment, that
                                                          cannot be an
                                                          absolute
                                                          rule.  This is
                                                          at odds with
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          model,
                                                          consensus
                                                          policy, etc. 
                                                          In this case,
                                                          the data
                                                          controllers
                                                          are part of a
                                                          larger
                                                          ecosystem, and
                                                          the "needs" go
                                                          beyond the
                                                          individual
                                                          business needs
                                                          of each data
                                                          controller.
                                                          (Indeed, the
                                                          individual
                                                          data
                                                          controller has
                                                          its own
                                                          database of
                                                          information
                                                          for its
                                                          business
                                                          needs.)</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">As I previously
                                                          noted, we are
                                                          going back to
                                                          first
                                                          principles --
                                                          which is not
                                                          necessarily a
                                                          bad thing. 
                                                          Why does ICANN
                                                          (and by
                                                          extension, the
                                                          Internet) need
                                                          WHOIS/RDS? 
                                                          That is the
                                                          question.  Not
                                                          "why does a
                                                          particular
                                                          [registrar/registry]
                                                          need
                                                          WHOIS/RDS?"</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Greg</span><span
                                                          style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">​</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Wed, Sep 27,
                                                          2017 at 5:12
                                                          AM, Volker
                                                          Greimann &lt;<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                                          #cccccc
                                                          1.0pt;padding:0in
                                                          0in 0in
                                                          6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>So when
                                                          will you start
                                                          advocating the
                                                          collection and
                                                          publication of
                                                          WHOIS for
                                                          internet
                                                          users? Because
                                                          they would be
                                                          connecting to
                                                          your network
                                                          all the
                                                          time...</p>
                                                          <p><span
                                                          style="color:#888888">Volker</span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Am
                                                          26.09.2017 um
                                                          20:48 schrieb
                                                          John Bambenek
                                                          via
                                                          gnso-rds-pdp-wg:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>"<span>As
                                                          for privacy
                                                          proxy solving
                                                          the problem,
                                                          it does not. 
                                                          Over
                                                          collection is
                                                          not solved by
                                                          providing a
                                                          proxy in the
                                                          third party
                                                          disclosure
                                                          mechanism.  It
                                                          is still
                                                          over-collection,
disproportionate to needs."</span></p>
                                                          <p><span>I
                                                          fundamentally
                                                          disagree
                                                          because the
                                                          purpose of
                                                          ICANN is not
                                                          the mere
                                                          facilitation
                                                          of domain from
                                                          registry to
                                                          registrant.
                                                          The purpose is
                                                          the security
                                                          and stability
                                                          of the
                                                          internet and
                                                          that means I
                                                          have a need to
                                                          verify who is
                                                          connecting to
                                                          my network and
                                                          have a means
                                                          of contacting
                                                          them. That
                                                          point has
                                                          never been
                                                          made, to my
                                                          knowledge, to
                                                          them.</span></p>
                                                          <p><span>The
                                                          point that
                                                          removing that
                                                          ability of me
                                                          being able to
                                                          contact domain
                                                          owners does
                                                          far MORE to
                                                          REDUCE the
                                                          privacy of the
                                                          registrants
                                                          than does
                                                          publishing
                                                          said
                                                          information. 
                                                          We talk often
                                                          about
                                                          verification
                                                          out-of-band
                                                          for sensitive
communications. How can I do that without a phone number?</span></p>
                                                          <p><span>I
                                                          will loudly
                                                          and vigorously
                                                          argue that the
                                                          path advocated
                                                          will make the
                                                          problem FAR
                                                          worse and not
                                                          better.
                                                          Hopefully we
                                                          don't get to
                                                          the point
                                                          where I have
                                                          actual data to
                                                          prove that.</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          9/26/2017 1:34
                                                          PM, Stephanie
                                                          Perrin wrote:</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span>As
                                                          for privacy
                                                          proxy solving
                                                          the problem,
                                                          it does not. 
                                                          Over
                                                          collection is
                                                          not solved by
                                                          providing a
                                                          proxy in the
                                                          third party
                                                          disclosure
                                                          mechanism.  It
                                                          is still
                                                          over-collection,
disproportionate to needs.</span></p>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <pre>-- </pre>
                                                          <pre>--</pre>
                                                          <pre> </pre>
                                                          <pre>John Bambenek</pre>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <pre> </pre>
                                                          <pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,</pre>
                                                          <pre> </pre>
                                                          <pre>Volker A. Greimann</pre>
                                                          <pre>- Rechtsabteilung -</pre>
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                                                          <pre> </pre>
                                                          <pre>Volker A. Greimann</pre>
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                                                          <pre>CEO: Alexander Siffrin</pre>
                                                          <pre>Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken </pre>
                                                          <pre>V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534</pre>
                                                          <pre> </pre>
                                                          <pre>Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP</pre>
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                                                      <pre>Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.</pre>
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                                                      <pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Volker A. Greimann</pre>
                                                      <pre>- Rechtsabteilung -</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre>
                                                      <pre>Im Oberen Werk 1</pre>
                                                      <pre>66386 St. Ingbert</pre>
                                                      <pre>Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a></pre>
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                                                      <pre>Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></pre>
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                                                      <pre>Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin</pre>
                                                      <pre>Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken </pre>
                                                      <pre>Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP</pre>
                                                      <pre><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a> </pre>
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                                                      <pre>Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.</pre>
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                                                      <pre>Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.</pre>
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                                                      <pre>Best regards,</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Volker A. Greimann</pre>
                                                      <pre>- legal department -</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Key-Systems GmbH</pre>
                                                      <pre>Im Oberen Werk 1</pre>
                                                      <pre>66386 St. Ingbert</pre>
                                                      <pre>Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a></pre>
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                                                      <pre>Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a></pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a></pre>
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                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>CEO: Alexander Siffrin</pre>
                                                      <pre>Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken </pre>
                                                      <pre>V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534</pre>
                                                      <pre> </pre>
                                                      <pre>Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP</pre>
                                                      <pre><a href="http://www.keydrive.lu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a> </pre>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -

Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a>
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Email: <a class="m_6373870469082176298moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>

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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
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Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534

Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,

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Key-Systems GmbH
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -

Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>

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