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    <p>Yes, and whois is the current RDS.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 10.10.2017 um 11:23 schrieb jonathan
      matkowsky:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Hi. Yes but this is the RDS. </div>
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          <div>On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 2:09 AM Volker Greimann &lt;<a
              href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
              moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
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              <pre>Hi Jonathan,

the domain object ID is indeed part of the whois:

>From the Whois of a .org domain -&gt; Registry Domain ID: D104189961-LROR
>From the Whois of a .com domain -&gt; Registry Domain ID: 4065057_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
>From the Whois of a .Saarland domain -&gt; Registry Domain ID: 8932212620_DOMAIN-SAAR

It is a unique identifier for a registration.

Best,
Volker
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              <div class="m_-2888496049519393299moz-cite-prefix">Am
                10.10.2017 um 05:18 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">Is the Domain Object ID displayed?</div>
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                    <div>On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:34 PM Sara Bockey &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sbockey@godaddy.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I agree with
                              Volker.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sara </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><b><span>sara
                                  bockey</span></b><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><b><span>sr.
                                  policy manager | </span></b><b><span>Go</span></b><b><span>Daddy<sup>™</sup></span></b><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><b><span><a
                                    href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">sbockey@godaddy.com</a> 
                                  480-366-3616</span></b><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>skype:
                                    sbockey</span></b><span></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;background:white">This
                                email message and any attachments hereto
                                is intended for use only by the
                                addressee(s) named herein and may
                                contain confidential information. If you
                                have received this email in error,
                                please immediately notify the sender and
                                permanently delete the original and any
                                copy of this message and its
                                attachments.</span></i><span></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                                </span></b><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&lt;<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;
                                on behalf of Volker Greimann &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b>Date: </b>Monday, October 9, 2017 at
                                1:13 AM<br>
                                <b>To: </b>"<a
                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
                                &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;</span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                Proposed Agreement for Original
                                Registration Date</span></p>
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                          <p>I still think that the only date that
                            should be included is the creation date of a
                            domain name as all potential previous
                            registrations of the same string refer to a
                            different domain object. </p>
                          <p>A domain that once existed and has been
                            permanently deleted at the registry level is
                            not the same as a domain registered when the
                            string became available again, and we should
                            not try to conflate both into one object. </p>
                          <p>Best,</p>
                          <p>Volker</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Am 02.10.2017 um 05:28
                              schrieb jonathan matkowsky:</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">The point is that
                                  without it, you run the risk of
                                  misunderstandings of what the creation
                                  date implies for starters. While that
                                  could be mitigated arguably with
                                  disclaimers, there’s no personal
                                  information in indicating whether
                                  there are known prior registration
                                  dates and the expert working group
                                  recommended that original registration
                                  date be included. This is just more
                                  accurate. Plus the Whois is the most
                                  direct evidence without necessarily
                                  having to ask for documents that would
                                  include personal information. So this
                                  potentially reduces the need for
                                  personal information disclosure.  If
                                  someone wants to get their domain back
                                  that inadvertently lapsed, there would
                                  be an indicator that it was previously
                                  registered without having to
                                  necessarily prove it. Plus records can
                                  more easily be forged. This couldn’t
                                  be.</p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 30,
                                    2017 at 12:30 PM Stephanie Perrin
                                    &lt;<a
                                      href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;
                                    wrote:</p>
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                                    <p><span>Surely there are many other
                                        ways an individual could prove
                                        the original registration date
                                        of a domain, other than it being
                                        in the WHOIS?</span></p>
                                    <p><span>Stephanie Perrin</span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 2017-09-28
                                        18:22, jonathan matkowsky wrote:</p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">There is a
                                          lot going on in the last week,
                                          and I am *still* playing catch
                                          up.  </p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                              apologize with the
                                              religious high holidays at
                                              the end of last week and
                                              my travel right before
                                              that, I dropped the ball,
                                              but I want to emphasize
                                              that the poll that was
                                              circulated framing the
                                              issue as to whether there
                                              is a requirement for the
                                              Original Registration Date
                                              in the EWG Final Report is
                                              not the issue in my humble
                                              opinion. The issue is
                                              whether it was
                                              recommended. And it was.
                                              Very clearly. And for good
                                              reasons. Some of those
                                              were specified in the EWG
                                              Final Report on page 132,
                                              and illustrated in the
                                              annex thereto. </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">There
                                              are many very important
                                              reasons why this
                                              recommendation was being
                                              made from my perspective.
                                              I'm not going to re-hash
                                              them. I am convinced that
                                              the reasons why the EWG as
                                              a whole made this
                                              recommendation would be
                                              best satisfied by the
                                              counter and indicator of
                                              unknown or yes status. To
                                              just focus on the
                                              technical reasons why they
                                              could have done a better
                                              job defining the Original
                                              Registration Date element
                                              as a justification to
                                              dismiss the *importance*
                                              of the element on the
                                              basis it was not required
                                              would be unfortunate.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Domains
                                              may be registered and
                                              deleted throughout the day
                                              literally within fifteen
                                              minutes apart. Others who
                                              lose their domain
                                              inadvertently and then
                                              want to use that original
                                              registration date as a
                                              point of reference in
                                              domain recovery should not
                                              lose that opportunity. On
                                              the flip side, to be fair,
                                              someone who is the subject
                                              of a UDRP deserves the
                                              opportunity to point to
                                              the original registration
                                              date as evidence the
                                              domain was allowed to
                                              lapse. When valuating
                                              domain names for sale, it
                                              is important that there be
                                              a public record that there
                                              may be a cloud on the
                                              title. etc.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                              fact that it's unknown
                                              there is a prior existing
                                              registration is important
                                              information. It let's
                                              people know that the
                                              creation date does not
                                              mean it is the first time
                                              the string has ever been
                                              created while at the same
                                              time letting us know when
                                              we know for sure that
                                              there has been such a
                                              prior registration in the
                                              future when deletions are
                                              tracked. While technically
                                              that may be obvious to us
                                              here, that is not
                                              necessarily obvious to
                                              many who rely on Whois. So
                                              the fact it is set to
                                              unknown serves a very
                                              important purpose.
                                              Furthermore, when it is
                                              actually known, that is
                                              vital information to
                                              provide (nobody said
                                              registry operators have to
                                              gather historical data
                                              that is burdensome or that
                                              some might not even have).
                                              I am not convinced it is
                                              too much to ask registry
                                              operators to keep track of
                                              deletions in the future.
                                              Doing so may not be hard
                                              to implement and would
                                              meet the recommendations
                                              of the EWG. Part of the
                                              work we are doing here has
                                              to have long-term vision
                                              and not just whether it is
                                              helpful in the short term
                                              for our personal or
                                              commercial purposes at
                                              hand. A lot of people in
                                              future generations are
                                              counting on us.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">The
                                              particular date is not as
                                              important to meet the
                                              underlying objectives of
                                              the EWG in coming up with
                                              this recommendation. I
                                              would also not dismiss
                                              outright how this counter
                                              will eventually serve an
                                              important function as an
                                              indicator of severe abuse
                                              that is taking place
                                              behind the scenes that
                                              nobody has easy access to
                                              see but can be in the
                                              future would be more
                                              readily apparent from
                                              following the EWG's
                                              recommendation in this
                                              regard (albeit,
                                              interpreting their
                                              recommendation more
                                              liberally to satisfy the
                                              policy considerations and
                                              purposes they
                                              identified).  </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">All of
                                              that said, I recognize and
                                              respect that others may
                                              disagree on this. I would
                                              at least then recommend
                                              that we ensure that the
                                              specific ID number that
                                              must be collected anyway
                                              from an engineering
                                              perspective is required to
                                              actually be *displayed* to
                                              tenuously meet the
                                              objectives of the EWG
                                              indirectly since its being
                                              exposed in a protocol
                                              anyway by definition.
                                              While this is a lot more
                                              work and not as helpful to
                                              many Internet users as the
                                              compromised suggestion to
                                              meet their recommendation,
                                              at least we have
                                              protection assuming there
                                              are historical records as
                                              readily available as today
                                              and that people can point
                                              out the different object
                                              ID numbers for these
                                              strings and explain what
                                              that means. </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Okay,
                                              I'm moving on unless there
                                              is a group that feels
                                              based on what I've said,
                                              that we should at least
                                              re-visit briefly. I
                                              recognize that there are
                                              *many* on this string with
                                              a lot more experience than
                                              me and knowledge coming
                                              from different vantage
                                              points, but feel it is
                                              important to at least lay
                                              this out in case others
                                              agree, as I wasn't on the
                                              call and couldn't chime
                                              in, in as a timely manner
                                              for which I express my
                                              regrets.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan 
                                               </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri,
                                              Sep 22, 2017 at 7:45 AM,
                                              Chuck &lt;<a
                                                href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>&gt;
                                              wrote:</p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                want to request that any
                                                members who think there
                                                is value in the
                                                'counter'<br>
                                                data element to please 
                                                answer Paul's question: 
                                                " So the utility of the<br>
                                                counter seems highly
                                                limited.  Does it even<br>
                                                deliver the usefulness
                                                that its proponents want
                                                it to?"  Please share
                                                what<br>
                                                you think that value is
                                                on this list by Monday
                                                of next week.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Chuck<br>
                                                <br>
                                                -----Original
                                                Message-----<br>
                                                From: <a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
                                                [mailto:<a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                On Behalf Of Paul
                                                Keating<br>
                                                Sent: Thursday,
                                                September 21, 2017 8:32
                                                AM<br>
                                                To: Greg Aaron &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:gca@icginc.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gca@icginc.com</a>&gt;;
                                                Andrew Sullivan &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>&gt;;<br>
                                                <a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                                Subject: Re:
                                                [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                                Proposed Agreement for
                                                Original Registration<br>
                                                Date<br>
                                                <br>
                                                And what is the intended
                                                purpose sought to be
                                                achieved?<br>
                                                <br>
                                                On 9/21/17, 5:15 PM,
                                                "Greg Aaron" &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                on<br>
                                                behalf of <a
                                                  href="mailto:gca@icginc.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gca@icginc.com</a>&gt;
                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <br>
                                                &gt;The upshot is that
                                                the counter would
                                                probably start at
                                                "Unknown" for<br>
                                                &gt;all existing
                                                domains.<br>
                                                &gt;* Once implemented,
                                                the feature has little
                                                usefulness until years
                                                in<br>
                                                &gt;the future, when
                                                some domains get
                                                re-registered and those
                                                strings<br>
                                                &gt;accumulate some
                                                history.<br>
                                                &gt;* But many domains
                                                get renewed year after
                                                year.  Those wouldn't<br>
                                                &gt;accumulate counter
                                                history, and would be
                                                set to Unknown either
                                                forever,<br>
                                                &gt;or for long periods
                                                if they are ever allowed
                                                to expire and if they
                                                are<br>
                                                &gt;then re-registered. 
                                                This is a significant
                                                portion of domains.  For<br>
                                                &gt;example .COM has an
                                                renewal rate of around
                                                72%.<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;So the utility of
                                                the counter seems highly
                                                limited.  Does it even<br>
                                                &gt;deliver the
                                                usefulness that its
                                                proponents want it to?<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;-----Original
                                                Message-----<br>
                                                &gt;From: <a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
                                                &gt;[mailto:<a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                On Behalf Of Andrew
                                                Sullivan<br>
                                                &gt;Sent: Thursday,
                                                September 21, 2017 10:49
                                                AM<br>
                                                &gt;To: <a
                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                                &gt;Subject: Re:
                                                [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                                Proposed Agreement for
                                                Original<br>
                                                &gt;Registration Date<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;On Thu, Sep 21, 2017
                                                at 02:28:39PM +0000,
                                                Greg Aaron wrote:<br>
                                                &gt;&gt; The alternate
                                                proposal is a simple
                                                marker that says whether
                                                there has<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;been a known
                                                previous iteration of
                                                the domain string,
                                                having been<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;registered with
                                                a different ROID.<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;Or a counter, of
                                                course, rather than just
                                                the marker.  From the
                                                point<br>
                                                &gt;of view of
                                                implementation in a
                                                database, I think these
                                                two options are<br>
                                                &gt;approximately the
                                                same, so I prefer the
                                                counter because it
                                                provides an<br>
                                                &gt;additional bit of
                                                data (that is, that the
                                                domain is changing --
                                                you can<br>
                                                &gt;watch it happen).<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;&gt; And it still
                                                presents the same
                                                operational problem: the
                                                registry has<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;to figure out
                                                whether a string has
                                                existed before.  That is
                                                something<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;registries are
                                                not designed to do.  And
                                                they may not have the<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;necessary
                                                historical records.  See
                                                the notes below.<br>
                                                &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;Well, no, that's
                                                part of the point of the
                                                new proposal: the
                                                registry<br>
                                                &gt;_doesn't_ have to
                                                figure that out, because
                                                the counter can be set
                                                to<br>
                                                &gt;"unknown" (in a SQL
                                                database, you'd probably
                                                use NULL).  To support<br>
                                                &gt;this feature,
                                                however, the registry
                                                would have to track
                                                deletions of<br>
                                                &gt;domain names in the
                                                future.  So it wouldn't
                                                be free, but it also<br>
                                                &gt;wouldn't be hard to
                                                implement.  (Any real
                                                SQL database, for
                                                instance,<br>
                                                &gt;could do this with
                                                an ON DELETE trigger.)<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;Best regards,<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;A<br>
                                                &gt;<br>
                                                &gt;--<br>
                                                &gt;Andrew Sullivan<br>
                                                &gt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a><br>
&gt;_______________________________________________<br>
                                                &gt;gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                mailing list<br>
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                                                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534

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