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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Apart from “curiosity” I don’t see it of being of any value or interest.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m sure we can all get a lot more excited about other data elements
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">https://www.blacknight.com/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">http://blacknight.blog/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personal blog: https://michele.blog/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Paul Keating <paul@law.es><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 15:11<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net>, Chuck <consult@cgomes.com>, jonathan matkowsky <jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net>, Sara Bockey <sbockey@godaddy.com>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Michele. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Suffice it to say that i doubt registrars/ries would be willing to expend the resources to collect let aline store and manage this data. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I still don't see the value/purpose for this data element. And i have yet to see a compelling (or any) reason to require them to do so.<br>
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On Oct 11, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are limits</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I know we destroy records after a certain number of years</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personal blog:
<a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some thoughts:
<a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Kris Seeburn <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 15:03<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>>, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>, Chuck <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com">consult@cgomes.com</a>>, jonathan matkowsky <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>>,
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Very true but i know accounting departments they like keeping stuffs. I’ve spent part of my life being an auditor and know what can come out. But yes its not indefinite on the system but go in paper form and kept for posterity.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday 11 October 2017 at 14:52<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><span style="color:purple">michele@blacknight.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span style="color:purple">Paul@law.es</span></a>>, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><span style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></a>>,
Chuck <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><span style="color:purple">consult@cgomes.com</span></a>>, jonathan matkowsky <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"><span style="color:purple">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</span></a>>, Sara Bockey <<a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"><span style="color:purple">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></a>>,
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday 10 October 2017 at 15:21<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><span style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></a>>, Chuck <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><span style="color:purple">consult@cgomes.com</span></a>>,
'jonathan matkowsky' <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"><span style="color:purple">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</span></a>>, 'Sara Bockey' <<a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"><span style="color:purple">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a>"
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Paul Keating <</span><a href="mailto:paul@law.es"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">paul@law.es</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
Chuck <</span><a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">consult@cgomes.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
'jonathan matkowsky' <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
'Sara Bockey' <</span><a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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registrations. The differentiation here is between the Creation Date as used in todays RDS and the Original Creation data, as proposed by the EWG. The latter would pertain to previous registrations of the same string, not the current one and therefore would
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cycle. If a domain expires AND is deleted and THEN newly registered again, this new registration will result in a NEW CREATION DATE. A domain name that “expires” but is purchased during a drop auction is not deleted and thus the Creation Date will remain
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Furthermore, I do not believe that registries maintain the data necessary to determine whether or not the domain had ever been registered. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b>From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
on behalf of Chuck <</span><a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">consult@cgomes.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'jonathan matkowsky' <</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
'Sara Bockey' <</span><a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
'Volker Greimann' <</span><a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>,
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">What do you mean when you say RDS?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">[</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>jonathan matkowsky<br>
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Volker Greimann <</span></span><a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration Date</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Hi. Yes but this is the RDS. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 2:09 AM Volker Greimann <</span></span><a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>
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<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Jonathan,</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">the domain object ID is indeed part of the whois:</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">From the Whois of a .org domain -> Registry Domain ID: D104189961-LROR</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">From the Whois of a .com domain -> Registry Domain ID: 4065057_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">From the Whois of a .Saarland domain -> Registry Domain ID: 8932212620_DOMAIN-SAAR</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">It is a unique identifier for a registration.</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Am 10.10.2017 um 05:18 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span lang="EN-US">sara bockey</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span lang="EN-US">sr. policy manager | GoDaddy<sup>™</sup></span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span><a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span lang="EN-US">
480-366-3616</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;background:white">This email message and any attachments hereto is intended for use only by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential
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on behalf of Volker Greimann <</span></span><a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:purple">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, October 9, 2017 at 1:13 AM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica-Light",serif">I still think that the only date that should be included is the creation date of a domain name as all potential
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica-Light",serif">A domain that once existed and has been permanently deleted at the registry level is not the same as a domain registered
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Am 02.10.2017 um 05:28 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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there’s no personal information in indicating whether there are known prior registration dates and the expert working group recommended that original registration date be included. This is just more accurate. Plus the Whois is the most direct evidence without
necessarily having to ask for documents that would include personal information. So this potentially reduces the need for personal information disclosure. If someone wants to get their domain back that inadvertently lapsed, there would be an indicator that
it was previously registered without having to necessarily prove it. Plus records can more easily be forged. This couldn’t be.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:30 PM Stephanie Perrin <</span></span><a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">On 2017-09-28 18:22, jonathan matkowsky wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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framing the issue as to whether there is a requirement for the Original Registration Date in the EWG Final Report is not the issue in my humble opinion. The issue is whether it was recommended. And it was. Very clearly. And for good reasons. Some of those
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as a whole made this recommendation would be best satisfied by the counter and indicator of unknown or yes status. To just focus on the technical reasons why they could have done a better job defining the Original Registration Date element as a justification
to dismiss the *importance* of the element on the basis it was not required would be unfortunate.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">Domains may be registered and deleted throughout the day literally within fifteen minutes apart. Others who lose their domain inadvertently and then want to use that original
registration date as a point of reference in domain recovery should not lose that opportunity. On the flip side, to be fair, someone who is the subject of a UDRP deserves the opportunity to point to the original registration date as evidence the domain was
allowed to lapse. When valuating domain names for sale, it is important that there be a public record that there may be a cloud on the title. etc.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">The fact that it's unknown there is a prior existing registration is important information. It let's people know that the creation date does not mean it is the first time the
string has ever been created while at the same time letting us know when we know for sure that there has been such a prior registration in the future when deletions are tracked. While technically that may be obvious to us here, that is not necessarily obvious
to many who rely on Whois. So the fact it is set to unknown serves a very important purpose. Furthermore, when it is actually known, that is vital information to provide (nobody said registry operators have to gather historical data that is burdensome or that
some might not even have). I am not convinced it is too much to ask registry operators to keep track of deletions in the future. Doing so may not be hard to implement and would meet the recommendations of the EWG. Part of the work we are doing here has to
have long-term vision and not just whether it is helpful in the short term for our personal or commercial purposes at hand. A lot of people in future generations are counting on us.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">The particular date is not as important to meet the underlying objectives of the EWG in coming up with this recommendation. I would also not dismiss outright how this counter
will eventually serve an important function as an indicator of severe abuse that is taking place behind the scenes that nobody has easy access to see but can be in the future would be more readily apparent from following the EWG's recommendation in this regard
(albeit, interpreting their recommendation more liberally to satisfy the policy considerations and purposes they identified). </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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anyway from an engineering perspective is required to actually be *displayed* to tenuously meet the objectives of the EWG indirectly since its being exposed in a protocol anyway by definition. While this is a lot more work and not as helpful to many Internet
users as the compromised suggestion to meet their recommendation, at least we have protection assuming there are historical records as readily available as today and that people can point out the different object ID numbers for these strings and explain what
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Chuck <</span></span><a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">consult@cgomes.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">I want to request that any members who think there is value in the 'counter'<br>
data element to please answer Paul's question: " So the utility of the<br>
counter seems highly limited. Does it even<br>
deliver the usefulness that its proponents want it to?" Please share what<br>
you think that value is on this list by Monday of next week.<br>
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Chuck<br>
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From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
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On Behalf Of Paul Keating<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 8:32 AM<br>
To: Greg Aaron <</span></span><a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gca@icginc.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>;
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original Registration<br>
Date<br>
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And what is the intended purpose sought to be achieved?<br>
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On 9/21/17, 5:15 PM, "Greg Aaron" <</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">on<br>
behalf of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gca@icginc.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US">>
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>The upshot is that the counter would probably start at "Unknown" for<br>
>all existing domains.<br>
>* Once implemented, the feature has little usefulness until years in<br>
>the future, when some domains get re-registered and those strings<br>
>accumulate some history.<br>
>* But many domains get renewed year after year. Those wouldn't<br>
>accumulate counter history, and would be set to Unknown either forever,<br>
>or for long periods if they are ever allowed to expire and if they are<br>
>then re-registered. This is a significant portion of domains. For<br>
>example .COM has an renewal rate of around 72%.<br>
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>So the utility of the counter seems highly limited. Does it even<br>
>deliver the usefulness that its proponents want it to?<br>
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On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br>
>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:49 AM<br>
>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:purple">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Proposed Agreement for Original<br>
>Registration Date<br>
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>On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 02:28:39PM +0000, Greg Aaron wrote:<br>
>> The alternate proposal is a simple marker that says whether there has<br>
>>been a known previous iteration of the domain string, having been<br>
>>registered with a different ROID.<br>
>><br>
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>Or a counter, of course, rather than just the marker. From the point<br>
>of view of implementation in a database, I think these two options are<br>
>approximately the same, so I prefer the counter because it provides an<br>
>additional bit of data (that is, that the domain is changing -- you can<br>
>watch it happen).<br>
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>> And it still presents the same operational problem: the registry has<br>
>>to figure out whether a string has existed before. That is something<br>
>>registries are not designed to do. And they may not have the<br>
>>necessary historical records. See the notes below.<br>
>><br>
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>Well, no, that's part of the point of the new proposal: the registry<br>
>_doesn't_ have to figure that out, because the counter can be set to<br>
>"unknown" (in a SQL database, you'd probably use NULL). To support<br>
>this feature, however, the registry would have to track deletions of<br>
>domain names in the future. So it wouldn't be free, but it also<br>
>wouldn't be hard to implement. (Any real SQL database, for instance,<br>
>could do this with an ON DELETE trigger.)<br>
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>Best regards,<br>
><br>
>A<br>
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