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Eprivacy seems to be delayed though<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-10-2017 20:22, Stephanie Perrin
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I believe the Art 29
group has commented on this matter, please check their
website for the relevant documents, as I don't believe we
have included them in our document respository.</font></font></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-10-13 14:16, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
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<div dir="auto">the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is
not superseded by GDPR<br>
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<div>I presume you are referring to the European Union's
e-Privacy Directive (2002/58/EC). If so, from what I
understand it is currently being updated so to be consistent
with the GDPR. As of last month the proposed revisions were
with the Council of the European Union. I'm not sure what
movement there has been since then.<br>
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<div>Best wishes,<br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT<br>
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<div>Local Time: 13 October 2017 1:51 PM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017 12:51<br>
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<div>From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><br>
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<div>To: Chuck <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><consult@cgomes.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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<div>
<div dir="auto">Chuck, I don’t understand how anyone can
share government perspective, and not represent a group in
doing so.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">I wanted to know whether leadership team has
decided to conduct a DPIA, and if so, whether you are
using the UK’s guide. I would think while it makes sense
to be looking at the purposes of collection, what is
primary and secondary cannot be the focus because that
presupposes knowing who the controller is. We have not yet
decided that as a working group. The memo did not
necessarily take into account the role of offering
accreditation services and ICANN’s mission.<br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">But it appears whether it’s primary or
secondary doesn’t matter for purposes of defining purposes
of collecting each data element.<br>
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<div dir="auto">We are not defining the purposes of
collecting Whois data but the data elements of the next
generation of Whois. That’s what I meant the other day
regarding RDS. <br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">To do that, we are not limited to the data
elements that currently exist as when we go through this
exercise to fulfill ICANN’s mission from ICANN’s
perspective including all those involved in cybersecurity,
or to offer accredited registration services. The primary
purpose of accredited services is to fulfill the mission,
and to provide that staple of a service to those that
register names with an accredited registrar. It seems we
need to carefully consider not only Spec 3 to the 2013 RAA
but also Paragraph 14 to the 2017 global amendment to the
registry agreement which says unique DNS records may be
supportable in the RDS if RDAP supports it. We therefore
need to know what RDAP can support, and at the very least
need to consider all elements from RFC 7485. This is not a
simple exercise, and will take **significant** time.<br>
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<div dir="auto">As we undertake this, we must know from WS
law firm what role the public directory service plays in
the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is not
superseded by GDPR, and Whois is a public directory. This
is critical analysis we are possibly missing. Can you ask
them to address this ASAP please?<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks <br>
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<div dir="auto">Jonathan <br>
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<div>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:35 AM Chuck <<a
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have 34 volunteers at
present; it would help a lot if we could get a lot
more so that teams will not have to cover more
than one of the nine purposes. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks much to the 34 of you
who have volunteered. I hope many more will
complete the poll and volunteer in the remaining 6
or so hours of the poll.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are particularly low for the
government perspective. Remember, team members
are not being asked to represent any group but
rather to share their understanding of the
perspective.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chuck<br>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa Phifer<br>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 10, 2017
10:19 AM<br>
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<div><b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10 October
Meeting<br>
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<div><b>Importance:</b> High<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In follow-up to this week’s WG
meeting, <b>all RDS PDP WG Members</b> are
encouraged to participate in the following poll:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3</a><br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Responses should be submitted
through the above URL. For offline reference, a
PDF of poll questions can also be found at:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>This poll will close at <span
style="color:red" class="colour">COB Wednesday
11 October</span>. Expressions of interest
gathered through this poll will be used form
drafting teams.</b><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please note that you <u>must
be a WG Member</u> to participate in polls. If
you are a WG Observer wishing to participate in
polls, you must first contact <a
href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
to upgrade to WG Member.<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lisa<br>
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