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    Eprivacy seems to be delayed though<br>
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    Theo <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-10-2017 20:22, Stephanie Perrin
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      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I believe the Art 29
            group has commented on this matter, please check their
            website for the relevant documents, as I don't believe we
            have included them in our document respository.</font></font></p>
      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-10-13 14:16, Ayden Férdeline
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        <div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
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          <div dir="auto">the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is
            not superseded by GDPR<br>
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        <div>I presume you are referring to the European Union's
          e-Privacy Directive (2002/58/EC). If so, from what I
          understand it is currently being updated so to be consistent
          with the GDPR. As of last month the proposed revisions were
          with the Council of the European Union. I'm not sure what
          movement there has been since then.<br>
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        <div>Best wishes,<br>
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            <div>Ayden Férdeline<br>
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          <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
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          <div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT<br>
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          <div>Local Time: 13 October 2017 1:51 PM<br>
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          <div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017 12:51<br>
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          <div>From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
              href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net"
              moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><br>
          </div>
          <div>To: Chuck <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;consult@cgomes.com&gt;</a>,
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
              href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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            <div dir="auto">Chuck, I don’t understand how anyone can
              share government perspective, and not represent a group in
              doing so.<br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">I wanted to know whether leadership team has
              decided to conduct a DPIA, and if so, whether you are
              using the UK’s guide. I would think while it makes sense
              to be looking at the purposes of collection, what is
              primary and secondary cannot be the focus because that
              presupposes knowing who the controller is. We have not yet
              decided that as a working group. The memo did not
              necessarily take into account the role of offering
              accreditation services and ICANN’s mission.<br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">But it appears whether it’s primary or
              secondary doesn’t matter for purposes of defining purposes
              of collecting each data element.<br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">We are not defining the purposes of
              collecting Whois data but the data elements of the next
              generation of Whois. That’s what I meant the other day
              regarding RDS. <br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">To do that, we are not limited to the data
              elements that currently exist as when we go through this
              exercise to fulfill ICANN’s mission from ICANN’s
              perspective including all those involved in cybersecurity,
              or to offer accredited registration services. The primary
              purpose of accredited services is to fulfill the mission,
              and to provide that staple of a service to those that
              register names with an accredited registrar. It seems we
              need to carefully consider not only Spec 3 to the 2013 RAA
              but also Paragraph 14 to the 2017 global amendment to the
              registry agreement which says unique DNS records may be
              supportable in the RDS if RDAP supports it. We therefore
              need to know what RDAP can support, and at the very least
              need to consider all elements from RFC 7485. This is not a
              simple exercise, and will take **significant** time.<br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">As we undertake this, we must know from WS
              law firm what role the public directory service plays in
              the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is not
              superseded by GDPR, and Whois is a public directory. This
              is critical analysis we are possibly missing. Can you ask
              them to address this ASAP please?<br>
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            <div dir="auto"><br>
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            <div dir="auto">Thanks <br>
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            <div dir="auto">Jonathan <br>
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            <div><br>
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              <div>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:35 AM Chuck &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We have 34 volunteers at
                      present; it would help a lot if we could get a lot
                      more so that teams will not have to cover more
                      than one of the nine purposes.  <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks much to the 34 of you
                      who have volunteered.  I hope many more will
                      complete the poll and volunteer in the remaining 6
                      or so hours of the poll.<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We are particularly low for the
                      government perspective.  Remember, team members
                      are not being asked to represent any group but
                      rather to share their understanding of the
                      perspective.<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck<br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
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                    <div><span></span><br>
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                        <div><b>From:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                          [mailto:<a
                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa Phifer<br>
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                        <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 10, 2017
                          10:19 AM<br>
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                        <div><b>To:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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                        <div><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                          IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10 October
                          Meeting<br>
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                        <div><b>Importance:</b> High<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<br>
                    </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">In follow-up to this week’s WG
                      meeting, <b>all RDS PDP WG Members</b> are
                      encouraged to participate in the following poll:<br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                        href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3</a><br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Responses should be submitted
                      through the above URL. For offline reference, a
                      PDF of poll questions can also be found at:<br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf</a><br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b>This poll will close at <span
                          style="color:red" class="colour">COB Wednesday
                          11 October</span>.  Expressions of interest
                        gathered through this poll will be used form
                        drafting teams.</b><br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Please note that you <u>must
                        be a WG Member</u> to participate in polls. If
                      you are a WG Observer wishing to participate in
                      polls, you must first contact <a
                        href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
                      to upgrade to WG Member.<br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<br>
                    </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Lisa<br>
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          <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan
            Matkowsky<br>
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