<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">If the registrar is based in the US, our rules apply. Period. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">--<div>John Bambenek</div></div><div><br>On Oct 17, 2017, at 18:27, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>That may help with US-based providers, but those based
elsewhere...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.10.2017 um 18:25 schrieb John
Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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<p>So what you're saying is that if there were a legal requirement
to request and disseminate that data, all this is moot?</p>
<p>I can fix that, will send a note to Congress now.<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2017 03:53 AM, Volker
Greimann wrote:<br>
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<p>Sure although I doubt there is a need to waste money on a
legal review as the below is self-evident. <br>
</p>
<p>To collect, store (and publish, in some cases) certain
information, there has to be a legal requirement or a legal
right to do so. For example, car ownership legislation usually
requires the registration of the owner of the car in a public
register, but there is no requirement to register the actual
driver. Incorporating a legal entity requires by law certain
data to be entered into a register that may be public or not,
depending on jurisdiction. Gun ownership in some jurisdiction
requires registration of the gun, the owner or both in a
usually non-public register. In some jurisdictions, criminals
that have served their time will have to register when moving
into areas where such jurisdition applies. In Europe, the
operator of the website is required to publish certain
information about himself in an easy-to-find section of the
website. Internet service providers may be required by law to
keep connection data of their customers for longer than
actually needed for business practices.<br>
</p>
<p>All these rules impact the right of private individuals to
their own data, but this impact is permitted due to the legal
basis (I am not going into the many cases where legal
requirements have been overturned in court as the impact on
the rights was unjustified or overly deep).<br>
</p>
<p>No such legal requirement exists for domain ownership. There
are private policies, agreements between parties, but none of
these are actually allowed to supersede legal requirements for
the protection of such data. In other words, these do not
create an exception to the legal requirements but have to work
within their limits.</p>
<p>So, concluding, whatever we discuss, it cannot violate data
privacy rights. If it did, the policy would be unenforceable
or even void. Let's not fool ourselves into believing such
legal rights can be waived, as the legal protections against
that are rather strong. For example, while a data subject can
provide consent, the GDPR puts very significant constraints on
this, how it can be obtained, how it can be revoked and what
the consequences of either are. For example, we cannot require
consent as a contractual condition and we cannot revoke the
registration if consent is revoked as that would violate the
requirement that consent must be "freely given".<br>
</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.10.2017 um 03:09 schrieb
jonathan matkowsky:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I respect that may be the case but can we
get some unbiased analysis in this regard similar to what
we’ve done recently? I’m not saying I’m any less biased
here than you are. I’m just trying to gather the relevant
facts. Can you elaborate on below please?</div>
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<div>On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<p>We will also have to differentiate etween public
directories that exist due to a legislatory
requirement and those that have come into being
without any such justification due to "reasons".</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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15.10.2017 um 09:42 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:<br>
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<div>Hi, Ayden. I am catching up. The thing I don't
get is that we need to look at whether there is an
exception made for public directories in the
ePrivacy Directive. If there is such an exception,
and it is also the case that GDPR doesn't
supersede the ePrivacy Directive, than I am having
difficulty reconciling that. I think we should ask
ICANN staff if they have looked into this issue or
come across it--so we have taken this into
consideration without having to guess.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at
2:04 PM, Ayden Férdeline <span><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
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<div>It might indeed be a Regulation if
adopted, but this is just a proposal for
now. Paragraph 30 of the European
Commission's proposed text states, "The
right to privacy and to protection of the
personal data of a natural person requires
that end-users that are natural persons
are asked for consent before their
personal data are included in a directory.
The legitimate interest of legal entities
requires that end-users that are legal
entities have the right to object to the
data related to them being included in a
directory."<br>
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<div>I do not think it is appropriate for us
as a Working Group to try to predict what
the outcome will be here; will the
proposed text change [this clause hasn't
changed over the past 12 months...], will
it be adopted at all? I think it will be
more productive if we stick with what is
definitive; that GDPR has been adopted and
enforcement begins in May 2018, and yes,
the e-Privacy Directive from 2002 (and
again, not a Regulation) has been
transposed into national laws in EU member
states.<br>
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<div>I think the best thing we can do is
rely on the legal advice that was
commissioned for us, and tailored to
respond to the questions that we as a
working group sought answers to. Among
them, I draw your attention to the answer
to question 9. I think the final
paragraph, which discusses proportionality
in the context of publicly accessible
databases, is very relevant when you cite
the e-Privacy Directive's references to
subscriber directories. Thanks.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes,<br>
</div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW:
IMPORTANT<br>
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<div>Local Time: 13 October 2017 9:23 PM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017 20:23<br>
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<div>From: <a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><br>
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<div>To: Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>,
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>,
theo geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>><br>
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<div>
<div dir="auto">I think the proposed
amendment to the eprivacy directive in
effect is being debated as a
regulation <br>
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<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf</a><br>
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<div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM
Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please remember that there is a
difference between a Regulation
(which GDPR is) and a Directive
(which is what e-Privacy is). I
think this distinction is
important in this conversation.
Thanks <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes, <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
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<div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at
8:59 pm, jonathan matkowsky
<<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">So I am trying
to piece this all together.
It seems like there may be a
possibility that the
eprivacy directive will
eventually be updated by the
regulation but that there is
still intense debates over
the regulation, that GDPR
doesn’t trump the directive
itself, and that there may
be exceptions in the
directive for a public
database when GDPR comes
into effect.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If the above
is true than GDPR may not
actually cover the public
Whois when it comes into
effect unless and until the
regulation comes into effect
(which is still being
debated and likely won’t be
resolved by the time GDPR
comes into effect)
reconciling inconsistencies
between GDPR and the
applicable privacy directive
that has some kind of
exception for a public
directory? <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Again, it’s
imperative we get clarity
around this issue to do our
work properly.<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks <br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at
11:29 AM theo geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>>
wrote: <br>
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<div>Eprivacy seems to
be delayed though <br>
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<div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
13-10-2017 20:22,
Stephanie Perrin
wrote: <br>
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<p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">I
believe the Art
29 group has
commented on
this matter,
please check
their website
for the relevant
documents, as I
don't believe we
have included
them in our
document
respository.</span></span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:"Lucida
Grande"" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">Stephanie
Perrin</span></span>
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<div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
2017-10-13 14:16,
Ayden Férdeline
wrote: <br>
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<div>Hi Jonathan, <br>
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<div dir="auto">the
Privacy
Directive, as I
understand it is
not superseded
by GDPR <br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>I presume you
are referring to
the European
Union's e-Privacy
Directive
(2002/58/EC). If
so, from what I
understand it is
currently being
updated so to be
consistent with
the GDPR. As of
last month the
proposed revisions
were with the
Council of the
European Union.
I'm not sure what
movement there has
been since then. <br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes, <br>
</div>
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Férdeline <br>
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<div>Subject: Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT <br>
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<div>Local Time:
13 October 2017
1:51 PM <br>
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<div>UTC Time: 13
October 2017
12:51 <br>
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<div>From: <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>
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<div>To: Chuck <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><consult@cgomes.com></a>,
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<div>
<div dir="auto">Chuck,
I don’t
understand how
anyone can
share
government
perspective,
and not
represent a
group in doing
so. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I
wanted to know
whether
leadership
team has
decided to
conduct a
DPIA, and if
so, whether
you are using
the UK’s
guide. I would
think while it
makes sense to
be looking at
the purposes
of collection,
what is
primary and
secondary
cannot be the
focus because
that
presupposes
knowing who
the controller
is. We have
not yet
decided that
as a working
group. The
memo did not
necessarily
take into
account the
role of
offering
accreditation
services and
ICANN’s
mission. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But
it appears
whether it’s
primary or
secondary
doesn’t matter
for purposes
of defining
purposes of
collecting
each data
element. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">We
are not
defining the
purposes of
collecting
Whois data but
the data
elements of
the next
generation of
Whois. That’s
what I meant
the other day
regarding
RDS. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">To
do that, we
are not
limited to the
data elements
that currently
exist as when
we go through
this exercise
to fulfill
ICANN’s
mission from
ICANN’s
perspective
including all
those involved
in
cybersecurity,
or to offer
accredited
registration
services. The
primary
purpose of
accredited
services is to
fulfill the
mission, and
to provide
that staple of
a service to
those that
register names
with an
accredited
registrar. It
seems we need
to carefully
consider not
only Spec 3 to
the 2013 RAA
but also
Paragraph 14
to the 2017
global
amendment to
the registry
agreement
which says
unique DNS
records may be
supportable in
the RDS if
RDAP supports
it. We
therefore need
to know what
RDAP can
support, and
at the very
least need to
consider all
elements from
RFC 7485. This
is not a
simple
exercise, and
will take
**significant**
time. <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">As
we undertake
this, we must
know from WS
law firm what
role the
public
directory
service plays
in the Privacy
Directive, as
I understand
it is not
superseded by
GDPR, and
Whois is a
public
directory.
This is
critical
analysis we
are possibly
missing. Can
you ask them
to address
this ASAP
please? <br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks
<br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Jonathan
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>On Wed,
Oct 11, 2017
at 11:35 AM
Chuck <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">We
have 34
volunteers at
present; it
would help a
lot if we
could get a
lot more so
that teams
will not have
to cover more
than one of
the nine
purposes. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">
<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
much to the 34
of you who
have
volunteered.
I hope many
more will
complete the
poll and
volunteer in
the remaining
6 or so hours
of the poll. <br>
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<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We
are
particularly
low for the
government
perspective.
Remember, team
members are
not being
asked to
represent any
group but
rather to
share their
understanding
of the
perspective. <br>
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<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Lisa
Phifer <br>
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October 10,
2017 10:19 AM
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<div><b>Subject:</b>
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10 October Meeting
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<div><b>Importance:</b>
High <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In
follow-up to
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meeting, <b>all
RDS PDP WG
Members</b>
are encouraged
to participate
in the
following
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3</a>
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questions can
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at: <br>
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poll will
close at <span style="color:red" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour">COB
Wednesday 11
October</span>.
Expressions of
interest
gathered
through this
poll will be
used form
drafting
teams.</b> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lisa
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
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Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
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