<div><div dir="auto">I respect that may be the case but can we get some unbiased analysis in this regard similar to what we’ve done recently? I’m not saying I’m any less biased here than you are. I’m just trying to gather the relevant facts. Can you elaborate on below please?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM Volker Greimann &lt;<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>We will also have to differentiate etween public directories that
      exist due to a legislatory requirement and those that have come
      into being without any such justification due to &quot;reasons&quot;.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
    </p></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <br>
    <div class="m_1602657155109957967moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.10.2017 um 09:42 schrieb jonathan
      matkowsky:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div>Hi, Ayden. I am catching up. The thing I don&#39;t get
        is that we need to look at whether there is an exception made
        for public directories in the ePrivacy Directive. If there is
        such an exception, and it is also the case that GDPR doesn&#39;t
        supersede the ePrivacy Directive, than I am having difficulty
        reconciling that. I think we should ask ICANN staff if they have
        looked into this issue or come across it--so we have taken this
        into consideration without having to guess.
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM,
            Ayden Férdeline <span>&lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>It might indeed be a Regulation if adopted, but this
                is just a proposal for now. Paragraph 30 of the European
                Commission&#39;s proposed text states, &quot;The right to privacy
                and to protection of the personal data of a natural
                person requires that end-users that are natural persons
                are asked for consent before their personal data are
                included in a directory. The legitimate interest of
                legal entities requires that end-users that are legal
                entities have the right to object to the data related to
                them being included in a directory.&quot;<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I do not think it is appropriate for us as a Working
                Group to try to predict what the outcome will be here;
                will the proposed text change [this clause hasn&#39;t
                changed over the past 12 months...], will it be adopted
                at all? I think it will be more productive if we stick
                with what is definitive; that GDPR has been adopted and
                enforcement begins in May 2018, and yes, the e-Privacy
                Directive from 2002 (and again, not a Regulation) has
                been transposed into national laws in EU member states.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I think the best thing we can do is rely on the legal
                advice that was commissioned for us, and tailored to
                respond to the questions that we as a working group
                sought answers to. Among them, I draw your attention to
                the answer to question 9. I think the final paragraph,
                which discusses proportionality in the context of
                publicly accessible databases, is very relevant when you
                cite the e-Privacy Directive&#39;s references to subscriber
                directories. Thanks.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Best wishes,<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
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                  <div>Ayden Férdeline<br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br>
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              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414protonmail_quote">
                <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
                </div>
                <div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT<br>
                </div>
                <div>Local Time: 13 October 2017 9:23 PM<br>
                </div>
                <div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017 20:23<br>
                </div>
                <div>From: <a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><br>
                </div>
                <div>To: Ayden Férdeline &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;,
                  Stephanie Perrin &lt;<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;,
                  <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>,
                  theo geurts &lt;<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div dir="auto">I think the proposed amendment to the
                    eprivacy directive in effect is being debated as a
                    regulation <br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf</a><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM Ayden Férdeline
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div>Hi,<br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Please remember that there is a difference
                        between a Regulation (which GDPR is) and a
                        Directive (which is what e-Privacy is). I think
                        this distinction is important in this
                        conversation. Thanks <br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Best wishes, <br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
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                        <div><br>
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                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:59 pm, jonathan
                            matkowsky &lt;<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <blockquote class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923protonmail_quote" type="cite">
                          <div>
                            <div dir="auto">So I am trying to piece this
                              all together. It seems like there may be a
                              possibility that the eprivacy directive
                              will eventually be updated by the
                              regulation but that there is still intense
                              debates over the regulation, that GDPR
                              doesn’t trump the directive itself, and
                              that there may be exceptions in the
                              directive for a public database when GDPR
                              comes into effect.<br>
                            </div>
                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div dir="auto">If the above is true than
                              GDPR may not actually cover the public
                              Whois when it comes into effect unless and
                              until the regulation comes into effect
                              (which is still being debated and likely
                              won’t be resolved by the time GDPR comes
                              into effect) reconciling inconsistencies
                              between GDPR and the applicable privacy
                              directive that has some kind of exception
                              for a public directory? <br>
                            </div>
                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div dir="auto">Again, it’s imperative we
                              get clarity around this issue to do our
                              work properly.<br>
                            </div>
                            <div dir="auto">Thanks <br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                              <div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:29 AM theo
                                geurts &lt;<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;
                                wrote: <br>
                              </div>
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                                  <p><br>
                                  </p>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html" target="_blank">https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html</a>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Eprivacy seems to be delayed
                                    though <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://iapp.org/news/a/libe-eprivacy-vote-delayed-juri-itre-and-edps-weigh-in/" target="_blank">https://iapp.org/news/a/libe-eprivacy-vote-delayed-juri-itre-and-edps-weigh-in/</a><br>
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                                </div>
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                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Theo <br>
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                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
                                    13-10-2017 20:22, Stephanie Perrin
                                    wrote: <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                    <p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:&quot;Lucida Grande&quot;" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">I
                                          believe the Art 29 group has
                                          commented on this matter,
                                          please check their website for
                                          the relevant documents, as I
                                          don&#39;t believe we have included
                                          them in our document
                                          respository.</span></span><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:&quot;Lucida Grande&quot;" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">Stephanie
                                          Perrin</span></span> <br>
                                    </p>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
                                      2017-10-13 14:16, Ayden Férdeline
                                      wrote: <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                      <div>Hi Jonathan, <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_quote" type="cite">
                                        <div dir="auto">the Privacy
                                          Directive, as I understand it
                                          is not superseded by GDPR <br>
                                        </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I presume you are referring
                                        to the European Union&#39;s
                                        e-Privacy Directive
                                        (2002/58/EC). If so, from what I
                                        understand it is currently being
                                        updated so to be consistent with
                                        the GDPR. As of last month the
                                        proposed revisions were with the
                                        Council of the European Union.
                                        I&#39;m not sure what movement there
                                        has been since then. <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Best wishes, <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
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                                          <div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><a title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a>
                                            <br>
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                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_quote">
                                        <div>-------- Original Message
                                          -------- <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Subject: Re:
                                          [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW:
                                          IMPORTANT <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Local Time: 13 October 2017
                                          1:51 PM <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017
                                          12:51 <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>From: <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>To: Chuck <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank">&lt;consult@cgomes.com&gt;</a>,
                                          <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="auto">Chuck, I don’t
                                            understand how anyone can
                                            share government
                                            perspective, and not
                                            represent a group in doing
                                            so. <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">I wanted to
                                            know whether leadership team
                                            has decided to conduct a
                                            DPIA, and if so, whether you
                                            are using the UK’s guide. I
                                            would think while it makes
                                            sense to be looking at the
                                            purposes of collection, what
                                            is primary and secondary
                                            cannot be the focus because
                                            that presupposes knowing who
                                            the controller is. We have
                                            not yet decided that as a
                                            working group. The memo did
                                            not necessarily take into
                                            account the role of offering
                                            accreditation services and
                                            ICANN’s mission. <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">But it appears
                                            whether it’s primary or
                                            secondary doesn’t matter for
                                            purposes of defining
                                            purposes of collecting each
                                            data element. <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">We are not
                                            defining the purposes of
                                            collecting Whois data but
                                            the data elements of the
                                            next generation of Whois.
                                            That’s what I meant the
                                            other day regarding RDS.  <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">To do that, we
                                            are not limited to the data
                                            elements that currently
                                            exist as when we go through
                                            this exercise to fulfill
                                            ICANN’s mission from ICANN’s
                                            perspective including all
                                            those involved in
                                            cybersecurity, or to offer
                                            accredited registration
                                            services. The primary
                                            purpose of accredited
                                            services is to fulfill the
                                            mission, and to provide that
                                            staple of a service to those
                                            that register names with an
                                            accredited registrar. It
                                            seems we need to carefully
                                            consider not only Spec 3 to
                                            the 2013 RAA but also
                                            Paragraph 14 to the 2017
                                            global amendment to the
                                            registry agreement which
                                            says unique DNS records may
                                            be supportable in the RDS if
                                            RDAP supports it. We
                                            therefore need to know what
                                            RDAP can support, and at the
                                            very least need to consider
                                            all elements from RFC 7485.
                                            This is not a simple
                                            exercise, and will take
                                            **significant** time. <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">As we
                                            undertake this, we must know
                                            from WS law firm what role
                                            the public directory service
                                            plays in the Privacy
                                            Directive, as I understand
                                            it is not superseded by
                                            GDPR, and Whois is a public
                                            directory. This is critical
                                            analysis we are possibly
                                            missing. Can you ask them to
                                            address this ASAP please? <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">Thanks  <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div dir="auto">Jonathan  <br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">
                                            <div>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at
                                              11:35 AM Chuck &lt;<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank">consult@cgomes.com</a>&gt;
                                              wrote: <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
                                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                                <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">We
                                                    have 34 volunteers
                                                    at present; it would
                                                    help a lot if we
                                                    could get a lot more
                                                    so that teams will
                                                    not have to cover
                                                    more than one of the
                                                    nine purposes.  <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                                    much to the 34 of
                                                    you who have
                                                    volunteered.  I hope
                                                    many more will
                                                    complete the poll
                                                    and volunteer in the
                                                    remaining 6 or so
                                                    hours of the poll. <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">We
                                                    are particularly low
                                                    for the government
                                                    perspective. 
                                                    Remember, team
                                                    members are not
                                                    being asked to
                                                    represent any group
                                                    but rather to share
                                                    their understanding
                                                    of the perspective.
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                                <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_1602657155109957967_m_-1405247696294414_m_-8431129111323193923_m_4380619635314105090_m_-5587227775194414260__MailEndCompose"> </a> <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <div><span></span><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                      </p>
                                                      <div><b>From:</b>
                                                        <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                        [mailto: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                        <b>On Behalf Of
                                                        </b>Lisa Phifer
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><b>Sent:</b>
                                                        Tuesday, October
                                                        10, 2017 10:19
                                                        AM <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><b>Subject:</b>
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10 October Meeting
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><b>Importance:</b>
                                                        High <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p><br>
                                                      </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                                <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                                    all, <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div lang="EN-US">
                                                <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">In
                                                    follow-up to this
                                                    week’s WG meeting, <b>all
                                                      RDS PDP WG Members</b>
                                                    are encouraged to
                                                    participate in the
                                                    following poll: <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3" target="_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3</a>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Responses
                                                    should be submitted
                                                    through the above
                                                    URL. For offline
                                                    reference, a PDF of
                                                    poll questions can
                                                    also be found at: <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf</a>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>This
                                                      poll will close at
                                                      <span style="color:red" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour">COB Wednesday 11 October</span>. 
                                                      Expressions of
                                                      interest gathered
                                                      through this poll
                                                      will be used form
                                                      drafting teams.</b>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Please
                                                    note that you <u>must
                                                      be a WG Member</u>
                                                    to participate in
                                                    polls. If you are a
                                                    WG Observer wishing
                                                    to participate in
                                                    polls, you must
                                                    first contact <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
                                                    to upgrade to WG
                                                    Member. <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Lisa
                                                    <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
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                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>-- <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan Matkowsky <br>
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                              <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan
                                Matkowsky<br>
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                    <div>-- <br>
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                    <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan
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