<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Ironically I am in Luxembourg now.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I doubt any technology company is going to move to Europe over whois.&nbsp;<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">--<div>John Bambenek</div></div><div><br>On Oct 17, 2017, at 19:44, Volker Greimann &lt;<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <p>True, but many are not and those that are, for how long? These
      days, moving your corporate HQ to Luxembourg or elesewhere is a
      small matter. Most large international companies already did.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.10.2017 um 19:36 schrieb John
      Bambenek:<br>
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      If the registrar is based in the US, our rules apply. Period.&nbsp;<br>
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      <div id="AppleMailSignature">--
        <div>John Bambenek</div>
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        On Oct 17, 2017, at 18:27, Volker Greimann &lt;<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
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          <p>That may help with US-based providers, but those based
            elsewhere...<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.10.2017 um 18:25 schrieb
            John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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            <p>So what you're saying is that if there were a legal
              requirement to request and disseminate that data, all this
              is moot?</p>
            <p>I can fix that, will send a note to Congress now.<br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2017 03:53 AM, Volker
              Greimann wrote:<br>
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              <p>Sure although I doubt there is a need to waste money on
                a legal review as the below is self-evident. <br>
              </p>
              <p>To collect, store (and publish, in some cases) certain
                information, there has to be a legal requirement or a
                legal right to do so. For example, car ownership
                legislation usually requires the registration of the
                owner of the car in a public register, but there is no
                requirement to register the actual driver. Incorporating
                a legal entity requires by law certain data to be
                entered into a register that may be public or not,
                depending on jurisdiction. Gun ownership in some
                jurisdiction requires registration of the gun, the owner
                or both in a usually non-public register. In some
                jurisdictions, criminals that have served their time
                will have to register when moving into areas where such
                jurisdition applies. In Europe, the operator of the
                website is required to publish certain information about
                himself in an easy-to-find section of the website.
                Internet service providers may be required by law to
                keep connection data of their customers for longer than
                actually needed for business practices.<br>
              </p>
              <p>All these rules impact the right of private individuals
                to their own data, but this impact is permitted due to
                the legal basis (I am not going into the many cases
                where legal requirements have been overturned in court
                as the impact on the rights was unjustified or overly
                deep).<br>
              </p>
              <p>No such legal requirement exists for domain ownership.
                There are private policies, agreements between parties,
                but none of these are actually allowed to supersede
                legal requirements for the protection of such data. In
                other words, these do not create an exception to the
                legal requirements but have to work within their limits.</p>
              <p>So, concluding, whatever we discuss, it cannot violate
                data privacy rights. If it did, the policy would be
                unenforceable or even void. Let's not fool ourselves
                into believing such legal rights can be waived, as the
                legal protections against that are rather strong. For
                example, while a data subject can provide consent, the
                GDPR puts very significant constraints on this, how it
                can be obtained, how it can be revoked and what the
                consequences of either are. For example, we cannot
                require consent as a contractual condition and we cannot
                revoke the registration if consent is revoked as that
                would violate the requirement that consent must be
                "freely given".<br>
              </p>
              <p>Volker<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.10.2017 um 03:09
                schrieb jonathan matkowsky:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">I respect that may be the case but can
                    we get some unbiased analysis in this regard similar
                    to what we’ve done recently? I’m not saying I’m any
                    less biased here than you are. I’m just trying to
                    gather the relevant facts. Can you elaborate on
                    below please?</div>
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                    <div>On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM Volker Greimann
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <p>We will also have to differentiate etween
                          public directories that exist due to a
                          legislatory requirement and those that have
                          come into being without any such justification
                          due to "reasons".</p>
                        <p>Best,</p>
                        <p>Volker<br>
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                          15.10.2017 um 09:42 schrieb jonathan
                          matkowsky:<br>
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                          <div>Hi, Ayden. I am catching up. The thing I
                            don't get is that we need to look at whether
                            there is an exception made for public
                            directories in the ePrivacy Directive. If
                            there is such an exception, and it is also
                            the case that GDPR doesn't supersede the
                            ePrivacy Directive, than I am having
                            difficulty reconciling that. I think we
                            should ask ICANN staff if they have looked
                            into this issue or come across it--so we
                            have taken this into consideration without
                            having to guess.
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 13,
                                2017 at 2:04 PM, Ayden Férdeline <span>&lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
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                                  <div>It might indeed be a Regulation
                                    if adopted, but this is just a
                                    proposal for now. Paragraph 30 of
                                    the European Commission's proposed
                                    text states, "The right to privacy
                                    and to protection of the personal
                                    data of a natural person requires
                                    that end-users that are natural
                                    persons are asked for consent before
                                    their personal data are included in
                                    a directory. The legitimate interest
                                    of legal entities requires that
                                    end-users that are legal entities
                                    have the right to object to the data
                                    related to them being included in a
                                    directory."<br>
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                                  <div>I do not think it is appropriate
                                    for us as a Working Group to try to
                                    predict what the outcome will be
                                    here; will the proposed text change
                                    [this clause hasn't changed over the
                                    past 12 months...], will it be
                                    adopted at all? I think it will be
                                    more productive if we stick with
                                    what is definitive; that GDPR has
                                    been adopted and enforcement begins
                                    in May 2018, and yes, the e-Privacy
                                    Directive from 2002 (and again, not
                                    a Regulation) has been transposed
                                    into national laws in EU member
                                    states.<br>
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                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>I think the best thing we can do
                                    is rely on the legal advice that was
                                    commissioned for us, and tailored to
                                    respond to the questions that we as
                                    a working group sought answers to.
                                    Among them, I draw your attention to
                                    the answer to question 9. I think
                                    the final paragraph, which discusses
                                    proportionality in the context of
                                    publicly accessible databases, is
                                    very relevant when you cite the
                                    e-Privacy Directive's references to
                                    subscriber directories. Thanks.<br>
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                                  <div>Best wishes,<br>
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                                      <div>Ayden Férdeline<br>
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                                    <div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
                                      FW: IMPORTANT<br>
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                                    <div>Local Time: 13 October 2017
                                      9:23 PM<br>
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                                    <div>UTC Time: 13 October 2017 20:23<br>
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                                    <div>From: <a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><br>
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                                    <div>To: Ayden Férdeline &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;,
                                      Stephanie Perrin &lt;<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;,
                                      <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>,
                                      theo geurts &lt;<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;<br>
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                                      <div dir="auto">I think the
                                        proposed amendment to the
                                        eprivacy directive in effect is
                                        being debated as a regulation&nbsp;<br>
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                                      <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                      <div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_comments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_september_2017.pdf</a><br>
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                                        <div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at
                                          1:05 PM Ayden Férdeline &lt;<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>&gt;
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>Hi,<br>
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                                          <div>Please remember that
                                            there is a difference
                                            between a Regulation (which
                                            GDPR is) and a Directive
                                            (which is what&nbsp;e-Privacy
                                            is).&nbsp;I think this
                                            distinction is important in
                                            this conversation. Thanks&nbsp;<br>
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                                          <div>Best wishes,&nbsp;<br>
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                                            <div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
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                                            <div>Sent from ProtonMail
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                                              <div>On Fri, Oct 13, 2017
                                                at 8:59 pm, jonathan
                                                matkowsky &lt;<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>&gt;
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">So I am
                                                  trying to piece this
                                                  all together. It seems
                                                  like there may be a
                                                  possibility that the
                                                  eprivacy directive
                                                  will eventually be
                                                  updated by the
                                                  regulation but that
                                                  there is still intense
                                                  debates over the
                                                  regulation, that GDPR
                                                  doesn’t trump the
                                                  directive itself, and
                                                  that there may be
                                                  exceptions in the
                                                  directive for a public
                                                  database when GDPR
                                                  comes into effect.<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">If the
                                                  above is true than
                                                  GDPR may not actually
                                                  cover the public Whois
                                                  when it comes into
                                                  effect unless and
                                                  until the regulation
                                                  comes into effect
                                                  (which is still being
                                                  debated and likely
                                                  won’t be resolved by
                                                  the time GDPR comes
                                                  into effect)
                                                  reconciling
                                                  inconsistencies
                                                  between GDPR and the
                                                  applicable privacy
                                                  directive that has
                                                  some kind of exception
                                                  for a public
                                                  directory?&nbsp;<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">Again,
                                                  it’s imperative we get
                                                  clarity around this
                                                  issue to do our work
                                                  properly.<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">Thanks&nbsp;<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                  <div>On Fri, Oct 13,
                                                    2017 at 11:29 AM
                                                    theo geurts &lt;<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>&gt;
                                                    wrote: <br>
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                                                      <div><a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html</a>
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                                                      <div>Eprivacy
                                                        seems to be
                                                        delayed though <br>
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                                                      <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                        13-10-2017
                                                        20:22, Stephanie
                                                        Perrin wrote: <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote type="cite">
                                                        <p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:&quot;Lucida
                                                          Grande&quot;" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">I believe the Art
                                                          29 group has
                                                          commented on
                                                          this matter,
                                                          please check
                                                          their website
                                                          for the
                                                          relevant
                                                          documents, as
                                                          I don't
                                                          believe we
                                                          have included
                                                          them in our
                                                          document
                                                          respository.</span></span><br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"><span style="font-family:&quot;Lucida
                                                          Grande&quot;" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font">Stephanie Perrin</span></span>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </p>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                          2017-10-13
                                                          14:16, Ayden
                                                          Férdeline
                                                          wrote: <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>Hi
                                                          Jonathan, <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_quote" type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="auto">the
                                                          Privacy
                                                          Directive, as
                                                          I understand
                                                          it is not
                                                          superseded by
                                                          GDPR <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I presume
                                                          you are
                                                          referring to
                                                          the European
                                                          Union's
                                                          e-Privacy
                                                          Directive
                                                          (2002/58/EC).
                                                          If so, from
                                                          what I
                                                          understand it
                                                          is currently
                                                          being updated
                                                          so to be
                                                          consistent
                                                          with the GDPR.
                                                          As of last
                                                          month the
                                                          proposed
                                                          revisions were
                                                          with the
                                                          Council of the
                                                          European
                                                          Union. I'm not
                                                          sure what
                                                          movement there
                                                          has been since
                                                          then. <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          wishes, <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_signature_block">
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_signature_block-user">
                                                          <div>Ayden
                                                          Férdeline <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_signature_block-protonm_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090protonmail_quote">
                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Original
                                                          Message
                                                          -------- <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Subject:
                                                          Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Local
                                                          Time: 13
                                                          October 2017
                                                          1:51 PM <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>UTC Time:
                                                          13 October
                                                          2017 12:51 <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>From: <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>To: Chuck
                                                          <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;consult@cgomes.com&gt;</a>,
                                                          <a class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">Chuck,
                                                          I don’t
                                                          understand how
                                                          anyone can
                                                          share
                                                          government
                                                          perspective,
                                                          and not
                                                          represent a
                                                          group in doing
                                                          so. <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">I
                                                          wanted to know
                                                          whether
                                                          leadership
                                                          team has
                                                          decided to
                                                          conduct a
                                                          DPIA, and if
                                                          so, whether
                                                          you are using
                                                          the UK’s
                                                          guide. I would
                                                          think while it
                                                          makes sense to
                                                          be looking at
                                                          the purposes
                                                          of collection,
                                                          what is
                                                          primary and
                                                          secondary
                                                          cannot be the
                                                          focus because
                                                          that
                                                          presupposes
                                                          knowing who
                                                          the controller
                                                          is. We have
                                                          not yet
                                                          decided that
                                                          as a working
                                                          group. The
                                                          memo did not
                                                          necessarily
                                                          take into
                                                          account the
                                                          role of
                                                          offering
                                                          accreditation
                                                          services and
                                                          ICANN’s
                                                          mission. <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">But
                                                          it appears
                                                          whether it’s
                                                          primary or
                                                          secondary
                                                          doesn’t matter
                                                          for purposes
                                                          of defining
                                                          purposes of
                                                          collecting
                                                          each data
                                                          element. <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">We
                                                          are not
                                                          defining the
                                                          purposes of
                                                          collecting
                                                          Whois data but
                                                          the data
                                                          elements of
                                                          the next
                                                          generation of
                                                          Whois. That’s
                                                          what I meant
                                                          the other day
                                                          regarding
                                                          RDS.&nbsp; <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">To
                                                          do that, we
                                                          are not
                                                          limited to the
                                                          data elements
                                                          that currently
                                                          exist as when
                                                          we go through
                                                          this exercise
                                                          to fulfill
                                                          ICANN’s
                                                          mission from
                                                          ICANN’s
                                                          perspective
                                                          including all
                                                          those involved
                                                          in
                                                          cybersecurity,
                                                          or to offer
                                                          accredited
                                                          registration
                                                          services. The
                                                          primary
                                                          purpose of
                                                          accredited
                                                          services is to
                                                          fulfill the
                                                          mission, and
                                                          to provide
                                                          that staple of
                                                          a service to
                                                          those that
                                                          register names
                                                          with an
                                                          accredited
                                                          registrar. It
                                                          seems we need
                                                          to carefully
                                                          consider not
                                                          only Spec 3 to
                                                          the 2013 RAA
                                                          but also
                                                          Paragraph 14
                                                          to the 2017
                                                          global
                                                          amendment to
                                                          the registry
                                                          agreement
                                                          which says
                                                          unique DNS
                                                          records may be
                                                          supportable in
                                                          the RDS if
                                                          RDAP supports
                                                          it. We
                                                          therefore need
                                                          to know what
                                                          RDAP can
                                                          support, and
                                                          at the very
                                                          least need to
                                                          consider all
                                                          elements from
                                                          RFC 7485. This
                                                          is not a
                                                          simple
                                                          exercise, and
                                                          will take
                                                          **significant**
                                                          time. <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">As
                                                          we undertake
                                                          this, we must
                                                          know from WS
                                                          law firm what
                                                          role the
                                                          public
                                                          directory
                                                          service plays
                                                          in the Privacy
                                                          Directive, as
                                                          I understand
                                                          it is not
                                                          superseded by
                                                          GDPR, and
                                                          Whois is a
                                                          public
                                                          directory.
                                                          This is
                                                          critical
                                                          analysis we
                                                          are possibly
                                                          missing. Can
                                                          you ask them
                                                          to address
                                                          this ASAP
                                                          please? <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">Thanks&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">Jonathan&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">
                                                          <div>On Wed,
                                                          Oct 11, 2017
                                                          at 11:35 AM
                                                          Chuck &lt;<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
                                                          <div lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">We
                                                          have 34
                                                          volunteers at
                                                          present; it
                                                          would help a
                                                          lot if we
                                                          could get a
                                                          lot more so
                                                          that teams
                                                          will not have
                                                          to cover more
                                                          than one of
                                                          the nine
                                                          purposes.&nbsp; <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                                          much to the 34
                                                          of you who
                                                          have
                                                          volunteered.&nbsp;
                                                          I hope many
                                                          more will
                                                          complete the
                                                          poll and
                                                          volunteer in
                                                          the remaining
                                                          6 or so hours
                                                          of the poll. <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">We
                                                          are
                                                          particularly
                                                          low for the
                                                          government
                                                          perspective.&nbsp;
                                                          Remember, team
                                                          members are
                                                          not being
                                                          asked to
                                                          represent any
                                                          group but
                                                          rather to
                                                          share their
                                                          understanding
                                                          of the
                                                          perspective. <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_1602657155109957967_m_-1405247696294414_m_-8431129111323193923_m_4380619635314105090_m_-5587227775194414260__MailEndCompose" moz-do-not-send="true">&nbsp;</a> <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div><span></span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                                          #e1e1e1
                                                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt
                                                          0in 0in 0in">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div><b>From:</b>
                                                          <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                                          [mailto: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Lisa
                                                          Phifer <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Tuesday,
                                                          October 10,
                                                          2017 10:19 AM
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>To:</b>
                                                          <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Subject:</b>
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10 October Meeting
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><b>Importance:</b>
                                                          High <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                                          all, <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090m_-5587227775194414260WordSection1">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">In
                                                          follow-up to
                                                          this week’s WG
                                                          meeting, <b>all
                                                          RDS PDP WG
                                                          Members</b>
                                                          are encouraged
                                                          to participate
                                                          in the
                                                          following
                                                          poll: <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Responses
                                                          should be
                                                          submitted
                                                          through the
                                                          above URL. For
                                                          offline
                                                          reference, a
                                                          PDF of poll
                                                          questions can
                                                          also be found
                                                          at: <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>This
                                                          poll will
                                                          close at <span style="color:red" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour">COB
                                                          Wednesday 11
                                                          October</span>.&nbsp;
                                                          Expressions of
                                                          interest
                                                          gathered
                                                          through this
                                                          poll will be
                                                          used form
                                                          drafting
                                                          teams.</b> <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Please
                                                          note that you
                                                          <u>must be a
                                                          WG Member</u>
                                                          to participate
                                                          in polls. If
                                                          you are a WG
                                                          Observer
                                                          wishing to
                                                          participate in
                                                          polls, you
                                                          must first
                                                          contact <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-secs@icann.org</a> to
                                                          upgrade to WG
                                                          Member. <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Lisa
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>_______________________________________________
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                          mailing list <br>
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                                                          <div>-- <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923m_4380619635314105090gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan Matkowsky <br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">******************************</span></span>
                                                          </span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">******************************</span></span>
                                                          </span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">*******<br>
                                                          </span></span>
                                                          </span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">This
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                                                          designated
                                                          recipient(s).
                                                          It may contain
                                                          confidential
                                                          or proprietary
                                                          information
                                                          and may be
                                                          subject to
                                                          confidentiality
                                                          protections.
                                                          If you are not
                                                          a designated
                                                          recipient, you
                                                          may not
                                                          review, copy
                                                          or distribute
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                                                          If you receive
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                                                          please notify
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                                                          reply e-mail
                                                          and delete
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                                                          Thank you.</span></span></span></span></div>
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                                                          </p>
                                                          <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">******************************</span></span>
                                                          </span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">******************************</span></span>
                                                          </span> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">*******</span></span>
                                                          </span> </span>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <pre>_______________________________________________
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                                                        <pre>_______________________________________________
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                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>_______________________________________________<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                                                      mailing list <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a> <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a><span class="m_1602657155109957967HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <span class="m_1602657155109957967HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                                  <div>-- <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan Matkowsky<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </font></span></blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                          <span class="m_1602657155109957967HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                              <div>
                                                <blockquote class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923protonmail_quote" type="cite"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">************************************************************</span></span></span></span>
                                                  <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"> ******* </span></span></span></span><br>
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <blockquote class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414m_-8431129111323193923protonmail_quote" type="cite">
                                                  <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">This message was
                                                          sent from
                                                          RiskIQ, and is
                                                          intended only
                                                          for the
                                                          designated
                                                          recipient(s).
                                                          It may contain
                                                          confidential
                                                          or proprietary
                                                          information
                                                          and may be
                                                          subject to
                                                          confidentiality
                                                          protections.
                                                          If you are not
                                                          a designated
                                                          recipient, you
                                                          may not
                                                          review, copy
                                                          or distribute
                                                          this message.
                                                          If you receive
                                                          this in error,
                                                          please notify
                                                          the sender by
                                                          reply e-mail
                                                          and delete
                                                          this message.
                                                          Thank you.</span></span></span></span>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"></span></span></span></span><br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">************************************************************</span></span></span></span>
                                                    <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"> *******</span></span></span></span><br>
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                                              </div>
                                            </font></span></blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <span class="m_1602657155109957967HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                        <div>-- <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Jonathan Matkowsky<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">*******************************************************************<br>
                                                  This message was sent
                                                  from RiskIQ, and is
                                                  intended only for the
                                                  designated
                                                  recipient(s). It may
                                                  contain confidential
                                                  or proprietary
                                                  information and may be
                                                  subject to
                                                  confidentiality
                                                  protections. If you
                                                  are not a designated
                                                  recipient, you may not
                                                  review, copy or
                                                  distribute this
                                                  message. If you
                                                  receive this in error,
                                                  please notify the
                                                  sender by reply e-mail
                                                  and delete this
                                                  message. Thank you.</span></span></span></span></div>
                                        <p><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size"></span></span></span></span><br>
                                        </p>
                                        <div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414highlight"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414colour"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414font"><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="m_1602657155109957967m_-1405247696294414size">*******************************************************************</span></span></span></span><br>
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                                      </font></span></blockquote>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
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                              </div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">******************************</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">******************************</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">*******<br>
                          </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This
                            message was sent from RiskIQ, and is
                            intended only for the designated
                            recipient(s). It may contain confidential or
                            proprietary information and may be subject
                            to confidentiality protections. If you are
                            not a designated recipient, you may not
                            review, copy or distribute this message. If
                            you receive this in error, please notify the
                            sender by reply e-mail and delete this
                            message. Thank you.</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">******************************</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">******************************</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">*******</span>
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                          <pre>_______________________________________________
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
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                        <pre class="m_1602657155109957967moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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