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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I am curious as to how
the questions are being framed. Who is the client, ICANN the
MS body, ICANN the CEO and staff (who have been found to be a
co-controller and therefore have an interest in avoiding
fines) or ICANN the Board.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">There are different interests
at stake here, I think it would be useful to get a fuller
understanding of how Teresa Swineheart is handling the
development of questions.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-10-19 10:43, Chuck wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Greg,
Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't understand why you
think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation from Teresa or
other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from the memo
itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?
Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant work we have
been doing? If so, please identify it.
In my opinion:
- The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy development
processes.
- The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard from the DP
experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three separate sources.
- You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the legal
advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but I think that
will help us.
Chuck
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To: Chuck <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><consult@cgomes.com></a>; 'Alan Greenberg' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>;
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Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Dear WG leadership:
As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound effect on our
work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice being made,
which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we have been doing.
And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9) provides advice for
the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a presentation
at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this effort.
Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November?
Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and remotely. (Some
members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday morning
meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time for those
participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in Europe / 12:30
a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)
As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's
schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says: "We intend to
provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of the
issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be
discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make
each memorandum publicly available."
All best,
--Greg
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Chuck
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:51 AM
To: 'Alan Greenberg' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>; 'GNSO RDS PDP'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
I want to call attention to the following paragraph:
"The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the domain name
space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available WHOIS
services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to become adaptable
to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as other changing
regulations around the world."
After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini memo and now
this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?
Chuck
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:04 AM
To: GNSO RDS PDP <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Full Blog post is at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update</a>. Alan
At 19/10/2017 12:23 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Perhaps it has already been posted, but if not, ICANN has received the
first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in relation to
WHOIS that had been commissioned.
It can be found at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part1-16oct">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part1-16oct</a>
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<pre wrap="">n.pdf.
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Alan
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