<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Feel free to correct me, but as far as I can tell, I (and my side) has been the only one who has suggested a solution (whois privacy for free). As far as I can tell, the only other solution mentioned by the other side has been for whois to go dark (aka “go get rekt”). <div><br></div><div>Can someone list the other solutions proposed?<br><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">--<div>John Bambenek</div></div><div><br>On Oct 20, 2017, at 13:25, "<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a>" <<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Well it all depends on what solution we come up with. There are no doubt that the status quo solution will not happen and the sooner that side of the group starts to come up with ideas / solutions the sooner we can get on track to ensure that there will be
as little damage as possible given the circumstances…
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<div class="">On 20 Oct 2017, at 12:42, John Bambenek <<a href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" class="">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Well that will only cover no EU address domains soon… <br class="">
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<div class="">On 20 Oct 2017, at 11:53, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">How often do people who actually research abuse and criminality need to say this is not true?<br class="">
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“BTW, in most combat of malicious activities targeting the average user, knowing the actual identity of the perpetrator is not really that useful. Specially because it's likely fake data anyways.”<br class="">
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Even when the data is fake it is useful. I am developing right now domain reputation specifically looking for verifiably false data as a means of filtering badness. It is immensely useful when criminals lie to me for a variety of reasons.
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BTW, in most combat of malicious activities targeting the average user, knowing the actual identity of the perpetrator is not really that useful. Specially because it's likely fake data anyways.<br class="">
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