<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I agree, </div><div class="">such parties, endangering Internet eco system on global scale </div><div class="">should be reviewed from perspective of Security and Stability of internet.</div><div class="">(their actions lead to separation of Internet sue to </div><div class="">insecure actions of untrusted third parties without proper control from community).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 24, 2017, at 16:30, theo geurts <<a href="mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl" class="">gtheo@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">.Amsterdam been offering free privacy on a Registry level since
2016. <br class="">
</p><p class="">It would be strange they now get added to blocklists or RPZ's due
to a blog article. If this is how these blocklists work than they
should be banned and made illegal as there is no real due process.
<br class="">
</p><p class="">Theo <br class="">
</p>
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24-10-2017 15:24, Dotzero wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAJ4XoYcq2+bG_QG1qJD9VB7V6S9nuyjkwsT4A2yuoJxtD9Zzwg@mail.gmail.com" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">I don't think that is the reaction John was thinking of
Volker. <br class="">
<br class="">
One reaction (proposal that has actually been made this
morning) to the going dark steps taken by Mijndomein is to
add FRLregistry and dotAmsterdam to block lists or RPZ. I
don't know whether this proposal will gain traction or not.
Other potential reactions might include blocking domains
registered through particular registrars. There is certainly
a potential for balkanization of the Internet from these
sorts of actions.<br class="">
<br class="">
</div>
Personally I'm taking a wait and see approach before deciding
what to propose internally within my organization for traffic
originating from TLDs or registrars who have gone dark. <br class="">
<br class="">
</div>
Michael Hammer<br class="">
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Volker
Greimann <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class="">True. Legal Requirement (Action) -> Compliant
implementation (Reaction)</p><p class="">Seriously though, I see this as a legitimate proposal
for a registry operator to both meet the needs of law
enforcement to access this data and the data protection
requirements in the jurisdictions that affect their
business.</p><p class="">ICANN should not have turned this into a compliance
matter, but now that they did, It is good to see them
stand up and defend their need to remain compliant with
applicable laws. I see this as a model of how all Whois
data for European data subjects will likely look in less
than 6 months. <br class="">
</p><p class="">Best,</p><p class="">Volker<br class="">
</p>
<div class="">
<div class="h5"><p class=""><br class="">
</p>
<br class="">
<div class="m_-59333515633959626moz-cite-prefix">Am
24.10.2017 um 12:42 schrieb John Bambenek:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class=""> Every action has an equal and
opposite reaction. <br class="">
<br class="">
<div id="m_-59333515633959626AppleMailSignature" class="">--
<div class="">John Bambenek</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:48, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class=""><p class="">Fighting the good fight.<br class="">
</p>
<br class="">
<div class="m_-59333515633959626moz-cite-prefix">Am
24.10.2017 um 11:32 schrieb Kris Seeburn:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class=""> This might be
interesting news….
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><a href="http://domainincite.com/22218-amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-whois-records-as-gdpr-row-escalates" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://domainincite.com/22218-<wbr class="">amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-<wbr class="">whois-records-as-gdpr-row-<wbr class="">escalates</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Oct 24, 2017, at 07:59, jonathan
matkowsky <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><wbr class="">>
wrote:</div>
<br class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div style="font-family:Helvetica-Light;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">Hi, Chuck, Regarding
below, has a decision been made by
leadership whether to invite the
org folks to meet with us in Abu
Dhabi as Greg A. was suggesting?</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Thanks </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Jonathan </div>
<br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="">On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:46
AM jonathan matkowsky <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><wbr class="">>
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">The other week
I was asking this group
about the significance of
the ePrivacy Directive and
asked to get some feedback.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">The memo says:</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">While our
memorandum series will
primarily focus on the
GDPR, we will also address
other relevant pieces of
EU legislation that may
have effect on the
processing of personal
data through the Whois
services, such as but not
limited to the EU ePrivacy
Directive 2002/58/EC and
the proposed new EU
ePrivacy Regulation aimed
to replace the said
directive in May 2018.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">This is
exactly what I was asking
to understand.</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">That said, I
do want to continue our
work, but I also have
limited resources—as do we
all—so the sooner we can
get this information, the
better. It may help us in
deciding the most
efficient way forward, or
at least help confirm we
aren’t wasting our time in
how we move forward here?</div>
<div dir="auto" class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Thanks </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">Jonathan </div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="">On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at
9:40 AM Greg Aaron <<a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">gca@icginc.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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<div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US" class="">
<div class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055WordSection1"><p class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055MsoPlainText"><a name="m_-59333515633959626_m_7775193058745579155_m_7299029587959283055__MailEndCompose" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">Dear Chuck:</a></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055MsoPlainText"><span class="">ICANN
meetings are for
information-sharing.
And since we have
two efforts
working on some of
the exact same
issues, I suggest
that some
info-sharing could
be very helpful to
our volunteers. </span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">The ICANN Org effort with Hamilton is clearly
going to be more
comprehensive
than the narrow
effort our WG
has received
from Wilson
Sonsini. And as
you know, the
Org effort will
set a precedent
which will be
important for
our WG to
understand. </span></span></p><div class=""><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">The new memo, and those to come, are about the
impact of GDPR
on registration
data and WHOIS.
I draw your
attention to the
end of the blog
post:</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">“As a reminder, this legal analysis is intended
to serve as
building block
for community
discussions
about how to
approach GDPR
issues in the
domain name
space. [WHOIS.]</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">Here's where we need help from the
multistakeholder
community:</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">Please review the initial legal analysis and
provide
feedback. This
includes
identifying
possible
questions, and
how best to
interact with
data protection
agencies and
others to get to
the next step of
the analysis.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">It will be helpful to receive your feedback at
the earliest
opportunity, so
as to inform the
upcoming
discussions at
ICANN60, and to
feed into future
iterations of
the legal
analysis.”</span></span></p><div class=""><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">The RDS WG is the main place where the
multistakeholder
community is
considering
WHOIS. So one
would think that
ICANN Org would
have already
reached out to
our WG. I am
surprised that
it has not.
So, I think it’s
appropriate for
us to invite the
Org folks in.
The goal is to
understand that
work and ask
questions.
Maybe the RDS WG
could then
formulate some
feedback as
requested
above. After
all, we’ve been
thinking about
this stuff for
almost two years
now..</span></span></p><div class=""><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">As
part of the
briefing, it would
be good to hear
about this
effort's schedule
and workplan. The
memo says: "We
intend to provide
a series of
memorandums, which
will address
different aspects
of the issue and
where the scope
and topics of each
such memorandum
will be discussed
and agreed with
ICANN. We
understand that
ICANN intends to
make each
memorandum
publicly
available." I do
not see any of
those details in
the memo or blog.
For example, what
topics will be the
subjects of the
forthcoming
memos? There’s
clearly a plan for
that.</span></p><div class=""><span class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">I
have no idea of
any of that will
come out in the
GDPR session on
Thursday, but
since that
consists of panel
presentations, I
am unsure and
would prefer that
our WG definitely
get a briefing and
a chance to ask
questions.</span><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""></span></span></p><div class=""><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">All best,</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">--Greg</span></span></p><div class=""><span class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<span class=""></span>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style:solid
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none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt
0in 0in" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext" class=""><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr class="">icann.org</a><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">gnso-rds-<wbr class="">pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf
Of<span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephanie
Perrin<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
October 19,
2017 11:19 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span></p>
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
ICANN Legal
Opinion on
GDPR - Part 1</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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<div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US" class="">
<div class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055WordSection1"><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif" class="">I am curious as to how the questions are being
framed. Who is
the client, ICANN
the MS body, ICANN
the CEO and staff
(who have been
found to be a
co-controller and
therefore have an
interest in
avoiding fines) or
ICANN the Board.</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif" class="">There are different interests at stake here, I
think it would be
useful to get a
fuller
understanding of
how Teresa
Swineheart is
handling the
development of
questions.</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif" class="">Stephanie Perrin</span></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On
2017-10-19 10:43,
Chuck wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" class="">
<pre class="">Greg,</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't understand why you</pre>
<pre class="">think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation from Teresa or</pre>
<pre class="">other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from the memo</pre>
<pre class="">itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant work we have</pre>
<pre class="">been doing? If so, please identify it.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">In my opinion:</pre>
<pre class="">- The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy development</pre>
<pre class="">processes.</pre>
<pre class="">- The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard from the DP</pre>
<pre class="">experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three separate sources.</pre>
<pre class="">- You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the legal</pre>
<pre class="">advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but I think that</pre>
<pre class="">will help us.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Chuck</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre class="">From: Greg Aaron [<a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">mailto:gca@icginc.com</a>] </pre>
<pre class="">Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:25 AM</pre>
<pre class="">To: Chuck <a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><consult@cgomes.com></a>; 'Alan Greenberg' <a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>;</pre>
<pre class="">'GNSO RDS PDP' <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a></pre>
<pre class="">Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Dear WG leadership:</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound effect on our</pre>
<pre class="">work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice being made,</pre>
<pre class="">which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we have been doing.</pre>
<pre class="">And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9) provides advice for</pre>
<pre class="">the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a presentation</pre>
<pre class="">at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this effort. </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November? </pre>
<pre class="">Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and remotely. (Some</pre>
<pre class="">members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday morning</pre>
<pre class="">meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time for those</pre>
<pre class="">participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in Europe / 12:30</pre>
<pre class="">a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's</pre>
<pre class="">schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says: "We intend to</pre>
<pre class="">provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of the</pre>
<pre class="">issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be</pre>
<pre class="">discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make</pre>
<pre class="">each memorandum publicly available."</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">All best,</pre>
<pre class="">--Greg</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre class="">From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr class="">org</a></pre>
<pre class="">[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr class="">bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Chuck</pre>
<pre class="">Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:51 AM</pre>
<pre class="">To: 'Alan Greenberg' <a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>; 'GNSO RDS PDP'</pre>
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<pre class="">Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
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<pre class="">I want to call attention to the following paragraph:</pre>
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<pre class="">"The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the domain name</pre>
<pre class="">space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available WHOIS</pre>
<pre class="">services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to become adaptable</pre>
<pre class="">to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as other changing</pre>
<pre class="">regulations around the world."</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini memo and now</pre>
<pre class="">this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?</pre>
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<pre class="">Chuck</pre>
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<pre class="">Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:04 AM</pre>
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<pre class="">Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
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<pre class="">Full Blog post is at</pre>
<pre class=""><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://www.icann.org/news/<wbr class="">blog/data-protection-and-<wbr class="">privacy-update</a>. Alan</pre>
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<pre class="">At 19/10/2017 12:23 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:</pre>
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<pre class="">Perhaps it has already been posted, but if not, ICANN has received the </pre>
<pre class="">first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in relation to </pre>
<pre class="">WHOIS that had been commissioned.</pre>
<pre class=""> </pre>
<pre class="">It can be found at</pre>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
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