<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">As I said earlier in this thread, I am traveling and can’t verify directly. The reporting suggests they are and someone else in this thread suggested they do. I am not in a position to check until this evening. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">--<div>John Bambenek</div></div><div><br>On Oct 24, 2017, at 17:34, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>No one ever claimed that they block the details of legal
entities. They don't!</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.10.2017 um 17:30 schrieb John
Bambenek:<br>
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They are blocking in an overbroad fashion in violation of the
contract they signed with ICANN. MAYBE you could argue those laws
prevent disclosure of natural persons (even with free whois), you
cannot argue that legal persons are protected.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And you know that. <br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">--
<div>John Bambenek</div>
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<div><br>
On Oct 24, 2017, at 17:07, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>They are not blocking all of whois. Those with a legal
right to receive the data still can. <br>
</p>
<p>This is not an act of belligerance, this is an attempt to
comply with legal requirements while still providing some
access. So yes, indeed, Legal Requirement (Action) ->
Compliant implementation (Reaction),</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.10.2017 um 16:49 schrieb
John Bambenek:<br>
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They are picking a fight to make a point. There is no
legal requirement to block all whois. GDPR isnt even in
effect yet. The reason to block them is and artifact of
belligerence they initiated. Like I said, every action has
an equal and opposite reaction. <br>
<br>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">--
<div>John Bambenek</div>
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<div><br>
On Oct 24, 2017, at 15:51, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>Why should these TLds be put on block lists absent
any evidence of significant abusive use? Purely as a
punitive measure for complying with legal
requirements? That is not reasonable.</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 24.10.2017 um 15:24
schrieb Dotzero:<br>
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<div>I don't think that is the reaction John was
thinking of Volker. <br>
<br>
One reaction (proposal that has actually been
made this morning) to the going dark steps
taken by Mijndomein is to add FRLregistry and
dotAmsterdam to block lists or RPZ. I don't
know whether this proposal will gain traction
or not. Other potential reactions might
include blocking domains registered through
particular registrars. There is certainly a
potential for balkanization of the Internet
from these sorts of actions.<br>
<br>
</div>
Personally I'm taking a wait and see approach
before deciding what to propose internally
within my organization for traffic originating
from TLDs or registrars who have gone dark. <br>
<br>
</div>
Michael Hammer<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at
7:00 AM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span>
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<p>True. Legal Requirement (Action) ->
Compliant implementation (Reaction)</p>
<p>Seriously though, I see this as a
legitimate proposal for a registry
operator to both meet the needs of law
enforcement to access this data and the
data protection requirements in the
jurisdictions that affect their business.</p>
<p>ICANN should not have turned this into a
compliance matter, but now that they did,
It is good to see them stand up and defend
their need to remain compliant with
applicable laws. I see this as a model of
how all Whois data for European data
subjects will likely look in less than 6
months. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
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<div class="m_-59333515633959626moz-cite-prefix">Am
24.10.2017 um 12:42 schrieb John
Bambenek:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Every action
has an equal and opposite reaction. <br>
<br>
<div id="m_-59333515633959626AppleMailSignature">--
<div>John Bambenek</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:48, Volker
Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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</div>
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<div>
<p>Fighting the good fight.<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_-59333515633959626moz-cite-prefix">Am
24.10.2017 um 11:32 schrieb Kris
Seeburn:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"> This
might be interesting news….
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="http://domainincite.com/22218-amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-whois-records-as-gdpr-row-escalates" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://domainincite.com/22218-<wbr>amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-<wbr>whois-records-as-gdpr-row-<wbr>escalates</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div><br>
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<div>On Oct 24, 2017, at
07:59, jonathan
matkowsky <<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><wbr>>
wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Hi,
Chuck, Regarding
below, has a
decision been made
by leadership
whether to invite
the org folks to
meet with us in Abu
Dhabi as Greg A. was
suggesting?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks </div>
<div dir="auto">Jonathan </div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Fri, Oct 20,
2017 at 2:46 AM
jonathan matkowsky
<<a href="mailto:jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonathan.matkowsky@riskiq.net</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">The
other week I
was asking
this group
about the
significance
of the
ePrivacy
Directive and
asked to get
some feedback.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">The
memo says:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">While
our memorandum
series will
primarily
focus on the
GDPR, we will
also address
other relevant
pieces of EU
legislation
that may have
effect on the
processing of
personal data
through the
Whois
services, such
as but not
limited to the
EU ePrivacy
Directive
2002/58/EC and
the proposed
new EU
ePrivacy
Regulation
aimed to
replace the
said directive
in May 2018.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">This
is exactly
what I was
asking to
understand.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">That
said, I do
want to
continue our
work, but I
also have
limited
resources—as
do we all—so
the sooner we
can get this
information,
the better. It
may help us in
deciding the
most efficient
way forward,
or at least
help confirm
we aren’t
wasting our
time in how we
move forward
here?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks </div>
<div dir="auto">Jonathan </div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Thu,
Oct 19, 2017
at 9:40 AM
Greg Aaron
<<a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gca@icginc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055MsoPlainText"><a name="m_-59333515633959626_m_7775193058745579155_m_7299029587959283055__MailEndCompose" moz-do-not-send="true">Dear Chuck:</a></p>
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<p class="m_-59333515633959626m_7775193058745579155m_7299029587959283055MsoPlainText"><span>ICANN
meetings are
for
information-sharing.
And since we
have two
efforts
working on
some of the
exact same
issues, I
suggest that
some
info-sharing
could be very
helpful to our
volunteers. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">The ICANN Org effort with Hamilton is clearly
going to be
more
comprehensive
than the
narrow effort
our WG has
received from
Wilson
Sonsini. And
as you know,
the Org effort
will set a
precedent
which will be
important for
our WG to
understand. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">The new memo, and those to come, are about the
impact of GDPR
on
registration
data and
WHOIS. I draw
your attention
to the end of
the blog post:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">“As a reminder, this legal analysis is intended
to serve as
building block
for community
discussions
about how to
approach GDPR
issues in the
domain name
space.
[WHOIS.]</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">Here's where we need help from the
multistakeholder
community:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">Please review the initial legal analysis and
provide
feedback. This
includes
identifying
possible
questions, and
how best to
interact with
data
protection
agencies and
others to get
to the next
step of the
analysis.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">It will be helpful to receive your feedback at
the earliest
opportunity,
so as to
inform the
upcoming
discussions at
ICANN60, and
to feed into
future
iterations of
the legal
analysis.”</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">The RDS WG is the main place where the
multistakeholder
community is
considering
WHOIS. So
one would
think that
ICANN Org
would have
already
reached out to
our WG. I am
surprised that
it has not.
So, I think
it’s
appropriate
for us to
invite the Org
folks in. The
goal is to
understand
that work and
ask
questions.
Maybe the RDS
WG could then
formulate some
feedback as
requested
above. After
all, we’ve
been thinking
about this
stuff for
almost two
years now..</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>As
part of the
briefing, it
would be good
to hear about
this effort's
schedule and
workplan. The
memo says: "We
intend to
provide a
series of
memorandums,
which will
address
different
aspects of the
issue and
where the
scope and
topics of each
such
memorandum
will be
discussed and
agreed with
ICANN. We
understand
that ICANN
intends to
make each
memorandum
publicly
available." I
do not see any
of those
details in the
memo or blog.
For example,
what topics
will be the
subjects of
the
forthcoming
memos?
There’s
clearly a plan
for that.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
have no idea
of any of that
will come out
in the GDPR
session on
Thursday, but
since that
consists of
panel
presentations,
I am unsure
and would
prefer that
our WG
definitely get
a briefing and
a chance to
ask questions.</span><span><span style="color:windowtext"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">All best,</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext">--Greg</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-<wbr>pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf
Of<span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephanie
Perrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
October 19,
2017 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-59333515633959626Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
ICANN Legal
Opinion on
GDPR - Part 1</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif">I am curious as to how the questions are being
framed. Who
is the client,
ICANN the MS
body, ICANN
the CEO and
staff (who
have been
found to be a
co-controller
and therefore
have an
interest in
avoiding
fines) or
ICANN the
Board.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif">There are different interests at stake here, I
think it would
be useful to
get a fuller
understanding
of how Teresa
Swineheart is
handling the
development of
questions.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida
Grande",serif">Stephanie Perrin</span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
2017-10-19
10:43, Chuck
wrote:</p>
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<pre>Greg,</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't understand why you</pre>
<pre>think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation from Teresa or</pre>
<pre>other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from the memo</pre>
<pre>itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant work we have</pre>
<pre>been doing? If so, please identify it.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>In my opinion:</pre>
<pre>- The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy development</pre>
<pre>processes.</pre>
<pre>- The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard from the DP</pre>
<pre>experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three separate sources.</pre>
<pre>- You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the legal</pre>
<pre>advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but I think that</pre>
<pre>will help us.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Chuck</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre>From: Greg Aaron [<a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gca@icginc.com</a>] </pre>
<pre>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:25 AM</pre>
<pre>To: Chuck <a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><consult@cgomes.com></a>; 'Alan Greenberg' <a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>;</pre>
<pre>'GNSO RDS PDP' <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a></pre>
<pre>Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Dear WG leadership:</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound effect on our</pre>
<pre>work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice being made,</pre>
<pre>which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we have been doing.</pre>
<pre>And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9) provides advice for</pre>
<pre>the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a presentation</pre>
<pre>at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this effort. </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November? </pre>
<pre>Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and remotely. (Some</pre>
<pre>members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday morning</pre>
<pre>meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time for those</pre>
<pre>participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in Europe / 12:30</pre>
<pre>a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's</pre>
<pre>schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says: "We intend to</pre>
<pre>provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of the</pre>
<pre>issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be</pre>
<pre>discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make</pre>
<pre>each memorandum publicly available."</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>All best,</pre>
<pre>--Greg</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre>From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a></pre>
<pre>[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Chuck</pre>
<pre>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:51 AM</pre>
<pre>To: 'Alan Greenberg' <a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a>; 'GNSO RDS PDP'</pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>I want to call attention to the following paragraph:</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>"The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the domain name</pre>
<pre>space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available WHOIS</pre>
<pre>services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to become adaptable</pre>
<pre>to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as other changing</pre>
<pre>regulations around the world."</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini memo and now</pre>
<pre>this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Chuck</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----</pre>
<pre>From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a></pre>
<pre>[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg</pre>
<pre>Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:04 AM</pre>
<pre>To: GNSO RDS PDP <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1</pre>
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<pre>Full Blog post is at</pre>
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<pre>first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in relation to </pre>
<pre>WHOIS that had been commissioned.</pre>
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<pre>It can be found at</pre>
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
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Best regards,
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: <a href="tel:+49%206894%209396901" value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
--------------------------------------------
Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems" moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
--------------------------------------------
Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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