<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">Well said Sam.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">We have recognized that there are competing legitimate interests. Our job is to find a way to balance them and 'walk between the raindrops' as it were. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">-Carlton</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>==============================<br><i><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Carlton A Samuels</font></i><br><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i></font><br>=============================</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Sam Lanfranco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" target="_blank">sam@lanfranco.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As a domain owner and one who works with at risk groups in less than open societies I don't have one "dog in this race". I work with groups, and myself, where lots, or little, information is available through WHOIS, and in some cases (e.g. for ccTLD .ca) the minimum is set by Registry/Registrar policy. For groups that risk physical harm privacy/proxy is essential (and that includes not just repressive regimes, it includes some half-way houses for abused women in North America). We are dealing with multiple stakeholders here.<br>
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We need to remind ourselves that we are looking for the viable intersection of the needs of four groups: the registrant, the registrars/registries, the various data protection regimes, and those who (for whatever reasons) make legal use of what is deemed to be properly available.<br>
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The postings that verge on character attacks, even against "stupid consumers" don't contribute to our work. We are looking for the acceptable intersection of four sets of needs, wants, and (in the case of governments) policies, and we are not looking for, nor would we reach a consensus on, a null set.<br>
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By any assessment of the pace of progress we have been painfully slow. For those of you who are face-to-face in Abu Dhabi, for the sake of the work, and the efforts of those of us who cannot attend, focus on the what and why of what constitutes the viable set that will move us toward consensus.<br>
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Sam Lanfranco (ncsg/npoc)<br>
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