<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Agreed Kris, <br>
<br>
Thanks, Allison, though this is, I guess, the cold hard truth,
selling domains dirt cheap or giving them away is a sure method to
poison a TLD, I think it is a separate issue when discussing RDS.
<br>
<br>
And the examples are clear, and at a point, such TLD operators
need to re-think their business model and act accordingly to keep
their TLD alive. <br>
<br>
So in May 2018, we will see a lot of use of the privacy services
due to the GDPR, I guess mostly at a Registrar level, but let's
not rule out that it might be on a Registry level, the dynamics
here are shifting day by day. <br>
So my question here, and I hope we can discuss this in good faith,
but it seems to me that the WHOIS will be an irrelevant factor
when it comes to the risk/reputation score?<br>
How does/will that play out? <br>
</p>
<p>And yes, this is not exactly related to our work when it comes to
RDS, but since we have the expertise here, I think it would be
useful to explore this a little more even though off topic. I hope
the leadership team allows this to get a better understanding, for
the community on what is going down and might happen in a just a
few months here. <br>
</p>
<p>And if we need to do this offlist, sure, no problem. I am just
trying to get a sense to here to comply with the law and keep a
business running. </p>
<p><br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Theo<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28-11-2017 20:57, John Bambenek via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:accece04-0e92-0ff8-bc90-73b69c59ef2f@bambenekconsulting.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<p>Full agreement on this point<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2017 01:30 PM, Kris Seeburn
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:C8185C87-9D92-43E1-9C83-BD9976FBAF2E@gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=utf-8">
As we move on …one way or the other the GDPR and other aligned
privacy laws will catch up eventually. We will need to find
levels and technical ways and reasons to get things to work. We
move to RDAPis fine as we look ahead but we should be able to
not only look at the laws that we need to respect but also to
find technical ways to get and make sure things still continue
towork. As this stage personally both are as important.<br
class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Nov 28, 2017, at 23:15, allison nixon <<a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">elsakoo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Most systems operators are not
afraid to block entire TLDs. While there are no
scientific studies out on this matter AFAIK, the help
forums are littered with people asking how to block
entire TLDs, and also registrants on those TLDs asking
why everyone is blocking them. It's enough to
conclusively say this is already an issue, and we can
thank abuse for this.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In this Reddit post, a user learns the
hard truth about his brand new XYZ domain:</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/6jq6f5/getting_blocked_should_i_abandon_my_xyz_domain/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/6jq6f5/getting_blocked_should_i_abandon_my_xyz_domain/</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">This article discusses Facebook's block of
all XYZ domains:</div>
<div class=""><a
href="http://adamyamada.com/facebook-blocks-xyz-domains-new-domains-pages/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://adamyamada.com/facebook-blocks-xyz-domains-new-domains-pages/</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">This Malwarebytes staff member explains to
a legitimate registrant that all .SCIENCE TLDs are
blocked and he gets no exception: </div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/173535-all-my-science-domains-blocked/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/173535-all-my-science-domains-blocked/</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In fact, the Malwarebytes "false positive"
forum is littered with owners of hacked domains that
discovered their problem because of a block, not
because of a notification:</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/123-website-blocking/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/123-website-blocking/</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">This user asks for an 'Existing list of
garbage "new" TLDs' to block</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://vamsoft.com/forum/topic/597/existing-list-of-garbage-new-tlds"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://vamsoft.com/forum/topic/597/existing-list-of-garbage-new-tlds</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">There are 179 Google search results for
people asking Microsoft's help service for ways to
block entire TLDs:</div>
<div class=""><a
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=how+do+i+block+TLD+site:answers.microsoft.com"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.google.com/search?q=how+do+i+block+TLD+site:answers.microsoft.com</a><br
class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">There are 72,500 Google search results
for "how to block" "tld":<br class="">
<a
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22how+to+block%22+%22tld%22"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.google.com/search?q=%22how+to+block%22+%22tld%22</a></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The Internet is effectively "broken" for
any legitimate registrants on these TLDs. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">As a seller of some of those same TLDs,
should you be concerned if your customers purchase
domains rendered useless due to blocking? </div>
<div class="">Would you actually refund a customer if
they told you they couldn't use the domain for e-mail
due to the TLD?</div>
<div class="">Would you warn your prospective .XYZ,
.STUDY, .PRESS, .PARTY, etc, customers that they
should not use the domains for e-mail?</div>
<div class="">When ICANN releases new gTLDs in the
future, do you think that those domains will ever be
able to send e-mail?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Truly, the rest of the world will be fine.
The more that ICANN has the "not my problem" attitude,
the more the rest of the world is going to push back.
ICANN seems to have lost the ability to release new
gTLDs without severe connectivity issues, so we also
need to ask the question: "why are these guys selling
the digital equivalent of the scarlet letter and not
warning their customers beforehand?"</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I think the question of selling defective
products is one that needs to be addressed more
seriously by regulators and outside parties. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I can also tell you that security vendors
are already looking into other anti-abuse techniques
for domains post-WHOIS, and I can also tell you that
they will result in an increase in the percentage of
legitimate domains that are blocked. This is your
problem now. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:43
PM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
Andrew,<br class="">
<br class="">
re:hotbed I was rather intending to ask whether
there is a direct correllation between TLDs with
redacted whois and issues that go unresolved. So do
you have more unresolved issues in .<a
href="http://co.uk/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">co.uk</a>
than in .com (if numbers are normalized for
registered domain names).<br class="">
<br class="">
I am sure no one would consider blocking the entire
mail traffic originating from the United Kingdom Top
Level Domain just because you cannot resolve some
issues in a few domains, correct?<br class="">
<br class="">
So if everyone followed their (or a similar) model,
the internet would not break. Some issues would get
harder to solve (or take longer). I am asking
because that is what most likely will happen on May
25 or sooner.<br class="">
<br class="">
Volker
<div class="">
<div class="h5"><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Am 28.11.2017 um 18:27 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:<br
class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017
at 04:31:56PM +0100, Volker Greimann wrote:<br
class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> case of
internet operability issues. While I
appreciate that there can be<br class="">
issues that would necessitate the ability to
quickly contact whoever can fix<br class="">
the issue, I wonder how this problem is
solved in TLDs where whois is<br class="">
already redacted.<br class="">
</blockquote>
It's not. In that case, if I am the one who
has this experience and I<br class="">
can't reach the target, then the problem goes
unresolved. In mail<br class="">
cases, as John suggests elsewhere in this
thread, the answer is very<br class="">
likely that mail is blocked. People seem
surprised these days that<br class="">
mail is so fragile, but this sort of thing is
part of the reason.<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> So how does it
work there? Are these TLDs hotbeds of DNS
issues and<br class="">
unresolved problems?<br class="">
</blockquote>
I don't know what you mean by "hotbed", or
whether that is intended to<br class="">
be dismissive. Some TLDs defintely have more
DNS problems than<br class="">
others. Given how hard the DNS works to make
connections happen even<br class="">
when things are badly misconfigured, lots of
stuff will work to some<br class="">
extent even when it is badly configured. But
DNS operations people<br class="">
trade stories about problems amongst
themselves, after giving up on<br class="">
sites because whois can't help and the mname
in the SOA record is<br class="">
broken. I find this happens more often than
you might expect.<br class="">
<br class="">
But yes, there are broken domains on the
Internet. I find it hard to<br class="">
believe that would be even slightly
remarkable.<br class="">
<br class="">
Best regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
A<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote>
<br class="">
-- <br class="">
</div>
</div>
Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur
Verfügung.<br class="">
<br class="">
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<br class="">
<br class="">
Volker A. Greimann<br class="">
- Rechtsabteilung -<br class="">
<br class="">
Key-Systems GmbH<br class="">
Im Oberen Werk 1<br class="">
66386 St. Ingbert<br class="">
Tel.: <a
href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20901"
value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a><br
class="">
Fax.: <a
href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20851"
value="+4968949396851" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851</a><br
class="">
Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a
href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a><br
class="">
<a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.domaindiscount24.com</a>
/ <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.BrandShelter.com</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan
bei Facebook:<br class="">
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a><br
class="">
<a href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin<br class="">
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken<br
class="">
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534<br class="">
<br class="">
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<br class="">
<a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur
für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form
der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe
an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte
diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so
bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder
telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.<br class="">
<br class="">
------------------------------<wbr class="">--------------<br
class="">
<br class="">
Should you have any further questions, please do not
hesitate to contact us.<span class=""><br class="">
<br class="">
Best regards,<br class="">
<br class="">
Volker A. Greimann<br class="">
</span> - legal department -<br class="">
<br class="">
Key-Systems GmbH<br class="">
Im Oberen Werk 1<br class="">
66386 St. Ingbert<br class="">
Tel.: <a
href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20901"
value="+4968949396901" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901</a><br
class="">
Fax.: <a
href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20851"
value="+4968949396851" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">+49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851</a><br
class="">
Email: <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Web: <a href="http://www.key-systems.net/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a
href="http://www.rrpproxy.net/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">www.RRPproxy.net</a><br
class="">
<a href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.domaindiscount24.com</a>
/ <a href="http://www.brandshelter.com/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.BrandShelter.com</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on
Facebook and stay updated:<br class="">
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a><br
class="">
<a href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
CEO: Alexander Siffrin<br class="">
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken<br
class="">
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<br class="">
<br class="">
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<br class="">
<a href="http://www.keydrive.lu/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">www.keydrive.lu</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for
the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it
is not permitted to publish any content of this
email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or
rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or
transmission error has misdirected this e-mail,
kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail
or contacting us by telephone.
<div class="HOEnZb">
<div class="h5"><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br
class="">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
class="">
<a
href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/l<wbr
class="">istinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
<br class="" clear="all">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
-- <br class="">
<div class="gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">_________________________________<br
class="">
Note to self: Pillage BEFORE burning.</div>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br
class="">
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
class="">
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"
class="">
<div dir="auto" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing:
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break:
after-white-space;" class="">
<div dir="auto" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div dir="auto" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap:
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break:
after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing:
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<br class="">
</div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<br class="">
</div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Kris
Seeburn</div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a
href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
<ul style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 8px;
border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-family:
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; vertical-align:
baseline; list-style: none; line-height: 17px;
display: table-cell; width: 504px; color:
rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">
<li style="margin: 0px; padding: 8px 12px 2px
0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-style:
inherit; font-size: 11px; font-family:
inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
font-variant-ligatures: inherit;
font-variant-position: inherit;
font-variant-caps: inherit;
font-variant-numeric: inherit;
font-variant-alternates: inherit;
font-variant-east-asian: inherit;
line-height: 1.2em;" class="">
<dl class="public-profile" style="margin:
0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline:
0px; font-style: inherit; font-family:
inherit; vertical-align: baseline;
font-variant-ligatures: inherit;
font-variant-position: inherit;
font-variant-caps: inherit;
font-variant-numeric: inherit;
font-variant-alternates: inherit;
font-variant-east-asian: inherit;
line-height: inherit; word-wrap:
break-word;">
<dd style="margin: 0px; padding: 2px 9px
1px 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px;
font-style: inherit; font-family:
inherit; vertical-align: top;
font-variant-ligatures: inherit;
font-variant-position: inherit;
font-variant-caps: inherit;
font-variant-numeric: inherit;
font-variant-alternates: inherit;
font-variant-east-asian: inherit;
line-height: inherit; display:
inline-block; zoom: 1;" class=""><a
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/"
title="View public profile"
name="webProfileURL" style="margin:
0px 10px 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px
19px; border: 0px; outline: 0px;
font-style: inherit; font-family:
inherit; vertical-align: middle;
text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102,
102, 102); font-variant-ligatures:
inherit; font-variant-position:
inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;
font-variant-numeric: inherit;
font-variant-alternates: inherit;
font-variant-east-asian: inherit;
line-height: inherit; display:
inline-block; zoom: 1;
background-image:
url(http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/images/apps/profile/sprite/sprite_profile_top_card_v8.png);
background-position: 0px -249px;
background-repeat: no-repeat
no-repeat;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/</a></dd>
</dl>
</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span><span><br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<span><img apple-inline="yes"
id="FD046824-DB19-4986-967A-4FE4353AED1A"
src="cid:part37.C6306041.1DD4E5DA@xs4all.nl"
class=""></span> </span></span></span></div>
<br class="">
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a></pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg</a></pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>