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<p>And as confirmed by Hamilton. <br>
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<p>And as confirmed by the Dutch DPA. <br>
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<p>And as confirmed by WP29. <br>
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<p>John, why do we keep having this conversation?<br>
What do we need to do here to get you on the bus, so we do not get
under the bus?<br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
Theo <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7-12-2017 21:41, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>No, not necessarily. The criteria for obtaining valid,
freely-given consent is demanding, and one cannot be asked to
consent to processing that is otherwise unlawful. We were told
in the first legal memo from WSGR that consent is not a silver
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<div>Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to
ICANN<br>
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<div>Local Time: 7 December 2017 8:18 PM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 7 December 2017 20:18<br>
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<div>From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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<div>To: Volker Greimann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br>
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<div>This interpretation is wrong. The latter clearly says that
consent in the current system is not clearly given. If a
domain holder had the free and informed option to publish
information in whois or not THIS ISSUE IS SOLVED. <br>
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<div>John Bambenek<br>
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<div>On Dec 7, 2017, at 17:59, Volker Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<p>Hi Michele,<br>
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<p>I read this a final and very clear warning from the
European DPAs to ICANN and its contracted parties to stop
messing about and start getting ready in time for May 25.
The references to previous notices make it very clear that
there will be no consideration given after that date.
While the letter contains nothing new to anyone who has
paid any attention, it is very clear in its message:
Public Whois is illegal in its current shape and form, and
there is no way to make it legal without making it
non-public.<br>
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<p>Best,<br>
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<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.12.2017 um 21:49 schrieb
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I'd highly recommend that you take the time to read the latest letter from the Article 29 Working Party to ICANN:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf</a>
(also attached)
For clarity the Article 29 WP represents the views of the DPAs of the EU member states. In many instances DPAs will address their concerns via this group rather than individually.
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