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You seem to be under the impression you (or anyone else) has the
right to have their traffic accepted on my network. Where does this
notion come from?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/07/2017 04:24 PM, Stephanie
Perrin wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">This may be a likely
outcome, but it merely strengthens my argument that some
kind of regulatory action is required to ensure that those
who have the power to block traffic do so only for
legitimate reasons. Blocking traffic for individuals who
utilize their data protection rights is totally
unacceptable. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07 17:20, Rubens Kuhl
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Consent is likely an avenue for those registrants that want to
be RDS-listed in order to gain trust among Internet users.
Hypothetical scenario: default is not being publicly-listed,
and then people start blocking domains massively. In such a
scenario, registrants that want more reach and trust from
end-users, might want to consent to being publicly-listed. As
long as lack of consent doesn't prevent service from contracted
parties, it might be useful and I think we should consider this
angle when time comes in the PDP.
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<div class="">On 7 Dec 2017, at 20:05, Chuck <<a
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The fact
that the requirements for consent are demanding does
not mean that we should not consider it in our
deliberations on access when we get there in our
work. I doubt that a consent process will suffice
by itself in solving access issues but it is
certainly one avenue that the letter pointed out as
a possible avenue. I think we will need to explore
that further when we deliberate on access. For now,
let’s focus on purposes and in particular Domain
Name Management as a purpose.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">From:</b><span
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[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden
Férdeline<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
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December 7, 2017 12:42 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
Bambenek <<a
href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</a>><br
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<b class="">Cc:</b><span
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moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to ICANN<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">No,
not necessarily. The criteria for obtaining valid,
freely-given consent is demanding, and one cannot
be asked to consent to processing that is
otherwise unlawful. We were told in the first
legal memo from WSGR that consent is not a silver
bullet here.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article
29 Working Party to ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
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class="">To: Volker Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><o:p
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class="">This interpretation is wrong. The
latter clearly says that consent in the current
system is not clearly given. If a domain holder
had the free and informed option to publish
information in whois or not THIS ISSUE IS
SOLVED. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">On Dec 7, 2017, at 17:59, Volker
Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div class="">Hi Michele,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">I read this a final and very clear
warning from the European DPAs to ICANN and
its contracted parties to stop messing about
and start getting ready in time for May 25.
The references to previous notices make it
very clear that there will be no
consideration given after that date. While the
letter contains nothing new to anyone who has
paid any attention, it is very clear in its
message: Public Whois is illegal in its
current shape and form, and there is no way to
make it legal without making it non-public.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">Volker<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
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sans-serif;" class="">Am 06.12.2017 um 21:49
schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:<o:p
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<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">I'd highly recommend that you take the time to read the latest letter from the Article 29 Working Party to ICANN:<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">For clarity the Article 29 WP represents the views of the DPAs of the EU member states. In many instances DPAs will address their concerns via this group rather than individually.<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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